I think we got beat by a decent miami team

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    Did Tennessee outplay us in every statistical category, but turnovers?
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    We didn't lose because of Jeff, but it's fact that Murphy, in his two games, has played better than Jeff. Not just in general. Murphy has two games better than any game Jeff has ever played in.

    Ok I'm wrong. Jeff's game vs Vandy was a tick better than Murphy's last Saturday.

    We went from average at best QB play to very very good QB play. Considering it's the most important position on the field it's safe to say we would have beaten Miami, probably easily.

    But that doesn't make the Miami game Jeff's fault. He played like himself, an average QB. If everyone else played up to their own standards we would have won. We shouldn't blame Jeff for not being that good.

    Hopefully Murph can keep it up
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    I was always one of Jeff's biggest critics, but lately have shifted a lot of the blame on to Pease. At some point you have to realize what your QB can and can't do and set him up to succeed. I don't think Pease ever did that for Jeff. Jeff needed a lot more called runs and read options.

    That being said we are in a better situation now with Murphy at QB. He hasn't faced stiff competion yet, but I already feel like he is a much better game manager which is all Florida needs with their stellar defense
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    They did have less penalties than us 3-35 vs 6-44 ...
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    I for one am not ready to crown them as ACC champs just yet. I want to see them play GT, VT and FSU before I jump to any conclusions. If they beat up on them, then yes they should be considered a good team.
    They were manhandled by an offense that some call pedestrian in the Gators and then beat up on juggernauts FAU, Savannah St. and a very bad USF team last lost 53-21 to another juggernaut, McNeese St. I predict Miami will be exposed and lose a couple of games.
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    Decent? Sure, I think everyone expected them to be decent.

    But they were not great. We should have beaten them.
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    That's a pretty good synopsis. The 'Canes simply didn't make as many mistakes as us and took advantage when they could.

    But let me expand on something here... there's something called "game tape" and "scouting your opponent", and Miami obviously did a very good job at that concerning Driskel and how he plays and reacts to certain down and distance situations and formations.

    They sat back during the game pretty much knowing what he was going to do, what his habits are, and they aligned and prepared their defense accordingly. When Jeff got pressured in the RZ, they knew he'd get impatient and force the ball.

    yeah, it's a chance he wouldn't have done that, but the Miami staff just scouted well and played their hunches well IMO.
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    IMO, Miami was better prepared and played to win and was not at all hesitant to take their shots down the field. Their DT play was better than ours and I thought they tackled better than us. Obviously, our offense is not nearly as effective when we have to come from behind.
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    Would be a fair point except for all the Gator turnovers and screwups in the first half, not to mention the loss of our starting qb. I'm guessing you didn't actually watch much, if any, of the UT game. Weren't the Canes beating up on Savanna St about that time.
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    Unpurgeable shame. But it's what we do when we play Miami.
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    The loss is done!
    Now we pull for Miami to win out that will add strength to our rating!
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    It will add luster!
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    Let's not get too ridiculous with over analyzing the fact that UF pretty much dominated most facets of the game including and unfortunately turnovers,
    Not a couple of turnovers mind you, FIVE turnovers. UM is decent, but real good?

    But if some of you guys want to crown Miami, crown em'
    UF UM
    First Downs 22 10
    Total Yards 413 212
    Turnovers 5 1
    First Downs 22 10
    3rd down Efficiency 6-15 1-11
    Total Yards 413 212
    Total Plays 77 53
    Avg Gain Per Play 5.4 4.0
    Net Yards Rushing 122 50
    Rushes 44 28
    Yards Per Rush 2.8 1.8
    Net Yards Passing 291 162
    Comp-Att 22-33 12-25
    Interceptions 2 1
    Fumbles 4 0
    Fumbles Lost 3 0
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    Before the season I said Miami's hatred of the Gators is likely more intense than any other team we play. Having grown up in Coral Gables and spent having considerable time over the years on their campus, I know why it is so. Miami's motivation to win the game was much stronger than ours for several reasons. It was and is certainly greater than many Gator fans' disdain for what they described as the scum. The Canes were sky high and we played as if it was just another game. Miami's team speed is perhaps better and their talent comparable to the SEC teams on our schedule. Al Golden is a first rate coach.

    The lesser informed on this board didn't want to hear why I thought that this away game against a formidable team was a tossup. They merely wanted to be believe that this was last year Miami's porous defense not having improved. After all they are in the ACC and we are in the SEC.

    We are a better team than Miami but we didn't take care of the football. IMHO our Gators will have a better season this year than the doom and gloom critics here would lead us to believe. However, we need to understand that there is greater parity among most teams nationally than before. Coach Will Muschamp doesn't think anything else
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    Pretty much 6 since you can consider a turnover on downs in field goal range as another missed oppurtunity.

    We dominated Miami. They should be happy they lucked into that win.
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    Getting a bunch of yards but giving up 5 turnovers & 2 easy TDs is not "dominating" the opposing team
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    I am a happy person. When the Gators win because the other team turns the ball over repeatedly, I never say "they gave the game away to us." I couldn't care less how many yards we gained. We didn't get it done. Saying "we gave the game away" is loser talk.

    There isn't a rival fan alive that would dare come to this board and survive if the situation was reversed and they would come here and say "they gave the game away." He would be eaten alive...
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    Good post!
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    I mostly agree... There are some times when a team "gives the game away", but not as often as most people think.
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    Thanks Wormwood56 !

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