I think it is going to take more than one year.....

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  1. UFLAW81
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    .....to turn this thing around.

    What I saw today was men and boys.
    I'm not quite sure how FSU ended up with so much more talent, particularly on offense, but damn if they are not in a different league.
    Their defense in damn good too, fast and physical, well disciplined.
    The entire team is very well coached, particularly on offense. The play calling was surreal.
    This was a pummeling and a RUTS for the ages.
    I'm not going to whine or cry over it. FSU is the better team and the better program.
    For now.
    My question is, do we want to be as good as or better than FSU, (or Alabama for that matter)?
    I sure do.
    But we seem to be way behind the curve here.
    Hopefully, I am wrong.
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    Sorry to say not with this coach. Not even close. He is what he is.
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    You don't know how FSU wound up with so much more talent?
    Allow me to help you.
    Offensively skilled players (particularly OL) don't want to come here and play for this mess.
    Does that help you?
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    What OC would come here?
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    Teams turn it around in one year all the time.
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    FSU ended up with more offensive talent because they recruit and evaluate talent better in that area. Will Muschamp knows absolutely nothing about offense. He also hasn't hire anyone who can run a competent offense. Even worse, the subpar OC hires that he has made, he gets in their way and tells them they should run a boring. low-scoring, TOP-controlling, "I don't wanna do anything other than run the ball because running means toughness and I think I'm tough but I'm not really that tough because I just went 4-8 and got bitch-slapped by Vandy, Georgia Southern, and everyone else" mentality which doesn't develop talent, doesn't score points, and doesn't attract any talent.
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    But I thought we said after last year they were soft on the line of scrimmage with the same players? And both lines I might add at that? Talent next year will be equal minus QB ... It's not all that big. Compare 2014 rosters and u tell me? That's ridiculous to think they are that much better athlete for athlete... How stupid
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    How? They recruit better than our staff. They develop much better than our staff. They call a better ball game than our staff.
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    our 10 11 12 o side classes sucked thanks to meyer and his sprained vagina.
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    Our defense got "slobber knocked" today, to borrow a phrase from a UF grad that calls the play by play for FSU.

    I can't stand listening to Bucs games on the radio because of him.

    Anyway, I digress.

    Boys and Men.
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    Lmao. Well said.
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    100 agree with this...
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    It's amazing how quickly we went downhill.

    Just an utter failure of a head coach and his staff.
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    A lot of people are going to be hugely disappointed with the new OC Hire. Whoever it is will be someone willing to play Muschamp's style of small ball.

    Until Muschamp stands up and says we are going to play a balanced, aggressive style of play that includes pass routes beyond the first down marker there is no reason for optimism. We'll be better next year, only because we can't get any worse.
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    We can be worse. The Volunteer winning streak ends next season
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    True.

    I just think we are going to have to be very patient.

    I have not seen this degree of difference between FSU and UF in 25 years.
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    Not saying Muschamp is the coach to do it but you can easily turn around in one season. Happens all the time.
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    Where we really have been hurt is the oline and QB recruiting. We needed more numbers at oline and too many projects at QB. We've really needed a polished QB to come in here like FSU has recruited.
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    True, look at how we turned it around from last season to this! Ha.
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    WM will never turn it around.
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