I don't get it. Please explain to me why and how

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  1. SavageGator
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    the Gators have an average time of possession advantage over opponents of almost 16 minutes per game. We are ranked #1 with 37:32 minutes holding the ball. How is this possible with a rushing game only averaging 192 yds per game and a passing game averaging only 201 yds per game. We punt the ball only 3.4 times a game.

    Why is it that our offense manages to hold on to the ball more than a full quarter longer than our opponents? Yes, our dominant defense does force them to give up the ball on short drives but yet our offense that the majority of posters here are critical about is effectively managing to move the chains and keeping the ball? What am I or the critics missing?
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    Part of it is working the play clock much more than up-tempo offenses. Also, the running plays tend to stay away from the sidelines preventing clock stoppages. In addition although we don't have gaudy offensive numbers, we are fairly good at getting first downs, and extremely good at preventing the other teams from converting 3rd downs.
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    I believe they changed the rule a few years ago to where the clock only stops when you go out of bounds in the last two minutes of each half.

    edit: so to educate myself, I looked it up. I guess it does stop, but is started on the referee's signal once the ball is spotted, instead of the start of the next play. I've obviously not payed close enough attention to this detail.
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    Because our average per rush is only 4.1 and per pass attempt is only 8.8, both low for the college game, meaning we have a lot of 3rd downs. We are a methodical, wear you down type of offense.
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    Stoppage in the last two mins only is a newer rule in the NFL.
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    I believe our offense is effectively managing the clock under the direction of Coach Pease and Coach Muschamp.
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    We let the play clock run way down between snaps. Part of playing great defense is not letting them stay on the field too long and obviously the opposition can't score if they're not on the field.

    Oregon's time of possession is much lower than ours but their running game is far more proficient because they get 20+ more snaps per game than we do. They give themselves more opportunities to pick up yards with more snaps.

    We're also not generating nearly as many big plays in the running game as we were last year. Part of that is due to coordinators having picked up a bit on Pease's style with more film to work from, some due to the fact that Brown and Jones don't have the explosiveness Gilly had.

    The 115 yards we had last week on the ground were the second lowest total (USCe last year) we've had in a game under Muschamp and won.
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    its because many of our drives are 75 yards+ and we usually like to get 4 on first down, 4 on second down, 4 on third down. it eats the clock up and also we usually use the whole play clock while other teams are doing the gimmicky hurry up offense(which has yet to win an NCAA or super bowl championship yet). those two combine for alot of possession
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    And our D gets tons of stops.
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    And Gators don't smell like corndogs.
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    Snapping w/ the play clock at :02 every time helps.
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    Most of those points have been made, but to summarize why (and because I like lists):

    1. Defense/Special Teams This sometimes goes overlooked, but because our defense is so effective and forces a lot of 3 and outs, it generates a lot of punts. Conversely, our punt return game isn't great - we rarely get any significant return yardage. The upshot is that our offense is on the field a lot and almost always has a long field to work with. Which leads to the second reason:

    2. We like short yardage plays This ended up being less true against Arkansas, but mainly because Solomon Patton had some really nice plays where he extended short/medium receptions into long YAC (yards after catch). But we're fine grinding short 3 yard runs and 4-5 yard pass plays. These usually stay in bounds and the clock keeps running. It's unfortunate that neither of our primary backs ever seems to break loose on any running plays (you'd think that would happen at least a couple times a game, but it almost never does). But this also produces the third reason:

    3. We usually go all 3 downs Because we favor short yardage plays, we tend to use all of our downs and methodically move down the field on scoring drives. Coupled with staying in bounds, this grinds down clock and produces long drives (in distance and time). There's also another factor which rolls into this, which is the fourth reason:

    4. We use the playclock I don't have any inside information, but it happens too regularly to be a coincidence. I bet our QB's are coached to not snap the ball until they're under 10 on the playclock. We're the anti-uptempo offense (and that's totally fine - Alabama is the same way and it's worked out fine for them). So to summarize:

    We're on offense a lot with long fields, we use short yardage plays and maximize the playclock usage with complements of downs. Viola - over the course of a game, it produces a large disparity in time of possession.
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    Just curious, don't know the answer, but how many timeouts have we spent on play clock?
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    We had the ball 2 minutes longer than Arkansas and yet we had far fewer plays than they had. It was a shock to learn that we out rushed them by games end.

    Grinding it out and letting the clock run will do that for you.
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    We also had some of the necessary big plays in the passing game ...
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    8.8 ypa is not low. Don't know where you got that from. In fact the 8.8 ypa mark is good enough for 20th in the country, ahead of Alabama.

    For comparison's sake, Texas A&M is seventh and is averaging 10.2 yards per attempt, which obviously isn't that much higher than our 8.8.
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    The more successful offenses are the ones that attack and are not "traditional" NFL like.

    Auburn, Florida under Meyer, the Patriiots, Saints, any team with Peyton Manning, even the Giants were pass heavy/shotgun... All successful with hardware.

    Balanced teams can win too, Bama, Baltimore, Pittsburgh.

    What you'd be hard pressed to find is successful run heavy shorten the game type offenses. How many of those have won?
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    To answer the OP:

    Run heavy

    Snap late in clock

    Minimal big plays; long drives

    Great defense that gives the ball back to the O fast
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    Alabama in 2011. They were first in the country in every defensive category, 16th in rushing offense, 69th in passing offense, and (to the original point) 13th in the country in time of possession. If our rushing game picks up a bit, we're built just like them.
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    It really is amazing. Obviously, UF's style of play on offense has a lot to do with it, but i think it somewhat of an outlier statistically. We keep getting 3 play 1st downs over and over and that's a bit of a fluke, IMO.

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