I am sick of the obama lie...

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    If you actually get a plan that costs "YOU" personally less that has more coverage it is because "YOUR" neighbor is paying the difference in the increased cost of your insurance plan.

    Please understand this and know this disaster is just beginning...
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    Which one?
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    You're sick of the Obama lie? I'll go you one better. I'm sick of Obama.
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    Great points!

    Seeing this one a lot when flipping of late. It gets to both of your points!
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    The original OP had us wondering which lie he was speaking of.
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    The one in which he says people will get better coverage cheaper or for the same cost...
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    You really need a primer on how insurance works.
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    Right Fred...

    Let me know when you understand mandating Preexisting conditions be covered with no bias is not an insurance feature and then I might feel comfortable that you will be able to pick up the concept of tax credits/redistribution...
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    What power does Obama have over some people that they continue to believe every lie Obama tells and defends the lies, no matter how blatant and obvious they are.
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    Difference here is that this is not about insurance. It is a gov't program. Despite your disingenuous put-down that someone doesn't know how insurance works, I suspect most people understand the pooling of risk across a large group to cover the individual losses/costs. In that world, the actuarials pump out the costs of the coverage based upon the various risk factors. In the gov't program, that is not where the game ends. It also takes into account a formula for ability to pay the premium, then adjusts the premium to subsidize one group and "tax" another group to cover the subsidy.
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    obama has proved one saying "when you tell a lie you have to tell two more to cover it up"
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    That's one way to look at it, I guess. The other way would be reforming the individual insurance market to operate and function more like the group insurance market, which the majority of people who get their insurance from their employer seem to be ok with, especially the older and sicker. Maybe you just feel better because you know Bob, the fat smoker from IT, and not the hypothetical stranger who is somehow screwing you over?
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    All insurance is redistribution by definition.
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    It is a pooling of money to cover real risk.

    Preexisting conditions are not real risk.

    Some when you are able to understand this let me know as I will begin to be more comfortable with the idea you might be capable of understanding tax credits/redistribution (from the wealthy no less) and doctor networks that take smaller fee schedules...
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    Yep---whatever you say fred. Holds as much water as everyone's previous insurance was all 'junk'...right? Or was that the other Lib Icon in here who kept preaching that crap for months now.....lol.
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    I am sick of his lies and of him as prez
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    I didn't know how insurance worked until now.

    You work for a union, you get free insurance subsidized by "the taxpayers". You are one of the "47%", you get free insurance subsidized by "the taxpayers". You are an illegal alien, you get free insurance subsidized by "the taxpayers". You work for the govt you get free insurance subsidized by "the taxpayers". You are one of "the taxpayers" you get half the coverage for twice the price if you don't get cancelled.

    Insurance 101. I got it.
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    Obama needs a primer on how to tell the truth.
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    That's not the case with the testimonial I linked below. Try not to get too perplexed, Q. Accept it. The ACA worked well for this dude and without any subsidies.
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    I'm afraid it would take more than a primer. Most disingenuous politician in recent memory. It's taken this health care
    debacle for some to finally admit it.

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