Howard Stern is spot on with his take on Israel

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    I agree with Howard to a great degree. WRT the Palestinians and Hamas ...... if you screw around with an infected being you'll likely contract an STD. Hamas is much like syphilis.
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    By and large, American Jews dont give a s#it about Israel. Based on annecdotal evidence though, once Jewish men reach a certain age, usually about 60 or so, then Israel becomes super-important for some reason.
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    It seems I've kind of noticed a similar trend, I wonder why that is. I've never been good enough friends with any Jewish people to see for myself how their family dynamics work in regards to Israel, I know they seem like, by and large, pretty traditional people, at least when it comes to religion - many of them who are not really practicing still following a lot of traditions go a long with it.

    On a side note, I met a group of Canadian Jewish dudes when I was back-packing Thailand who had all just spent a while in Israel learning the culture, Hebrew language, and working with young Jewish kids - all of them were very cool guys and I still keep in touch with a couple of them. I don't think it's common though for the younger generation to do something like that and I was under the impression their families were all that of an upper middle class or upper class background.
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    Seems like an existential thing to me. When you get older, you start to think more about the bigger picture or the world you will soon leave behind. If you are not a particularly religious person but still identify as Jewish, then Israel is an idea that's bigger than yourself, a connection to an identity.

    I had some Jewish people I do business with move to Israel, but it was so much of a culture shock they moved back. They didnt really know much Hebrew or anything, so it was tough to get work or really fit in over there.
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    I'm not sure about the latter part of your post but I find the same true in my experiences.
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    I don't know anyone who is Jewish that doesn't give a $hit about Israel. I stand with Israel, but I am American first. I support Israel's right to defend themselves, but that doesn't mean that I think we need to send our troops over there. I am not saying that I wouldn't support it if we did. Not sure who you are hearing from that doesn't care about Israel. Maybe they are just Jewish by birth and don't care about anything Jewish.
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    I agree with this. I grew up in South FL, and it has always been a significant issue amongst my Jewish friends.

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    Not giving a sh$t = not significantly engaged with the internal politics of Israel, US/Israeli relations, the Palestinian question, etc, especially compared to many other issues. Kind of like how most Irish-Americans didnt know/care much about the "troubles" in Northern Ireland.
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    I disagree, I grew up with some Jewish families and have been to Israel when I was in the service. There is a strong connection between American Jewish people and Israel.
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    then why do they keep supporting 0 when he has done nothing to support Israel
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    ^ I have always wondered the same thing.
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    The answer is that either you are wrong about this premise that "O has done nothing to support Israel", or that American Jews by and large don't care about US/Israeli policy in relation to other more important issues. Its not just Obama, conservatives have been trying to move the needle on Israel forever to garner more Jewish support. Whatever the case, the appeal has been mostly ineffective.
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    Ultimately, how many people do you figure are single issue Israel voters? The number is probably small and insignificant.
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    Checkout Birthright Israel.
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    Correct. They vote their wallet first, Israel second.

    Would you honestly propose that there exists a scenario that would envision a world in which dc- tel Aviv relations have improved over the last 6 years?
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    I wouldn't say that they've improved, and I wouldn't say that they have really deteriorated either.
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    Obama would probably say so since he had no problem saying this yesterday..

    “It’s pretty hard to find an economic measure where we’re not significantly better off.”

    http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/24/o...sure-where-were-not-significantly-better-off/

    I mean that's right up there with Hillary saying the Reset with Russia worked.
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    FWIW Stern is half Jewish half Italian, but seemingly identifies himself as Jewish. I'd categorize his politics as libertarian, which is unusual in his field.

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