How the GOP became the “White Man’s Party”

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    Because it's way more expensive for society to pay for their carelessness down the road.
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    I do not deny that government institutions have helped to bring innovations to our society, but I am still waiting to hear about all of those "societal innovations" that liberal politicians have made in this country.
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    it is, but good luck trying to force responsibility

    you can outlaw it if you'd like, and abortion would still happen with regularity

    humans aren't the most responsible creatures, especially when it comes to sexual desires, and that needs to be accepted and accounted for by giving them responsible methods to terminate unwanted pregnancies within a time limit
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    because, as of now, society, through its elected representatives, have decided that part of our tax money goes to funding these services for low income folks

    surely it would be nice for both of us to pick and choose where our individual taxes go to, but we don't have that choice at the moment
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    108- you cannot legislate it and I understand that all to well- just quit expecting me to pay for it
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    tell me Bill, why should I be expected to pay for these wars that I have no faith at all in?

    neither of us have any control on how our taxes are spent, outside of trying to change it via the voting booth
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    wow you and I actually agree on something
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    on that note, i wish you and your loved ones, a happy holidays together.

    i am off for a bit to go help feed the needy at the park near me
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    You know and I know that the democratic party has been detrimental to minorities. The only thing the Dems are good at is controlling the media and deception of the masses.
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    that's why they are now called "undocumented immigrants" and not "illegal immigrants"
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    Regan wasn't in charge of spending in the 1980's--Tip O'Neill was. The fact that Reagan was able to work with Tip O'Neill and actually accomplish something important while minimizing the damage that Tip was doing to the federal debt is absolutely amazing. That's what makes Reagan the best president since FDR (both the historians AND the American people acknowledge this). Be sure to let us know when Obama accomplishes something--we'd like to know.

    You have been defeated.
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    Hard work is hard. Some people don't want to do anything hard.
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    so Reagan didn't present a budget to Congress each year? Didn't sign what Congress passed? And Obama has nothing to do with spending today?
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    We are not a nanny state... people have the right to make their own choices in life. Government controls are never the answer, but making it financially restrictive (don't reward bad behavior) to those that make those mistakes are the only way to truly guide social behavior while allowing for people to also keep their freedom and liberty from an oppressive (redistributive) governance.
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    How it works is if it's a Republican president, spending is all congresses fault. If it's a Democrat president, spending is all the president's fault. That's just how it is.
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    All I heard was crickets.....
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    No, I would say that Reagan gave in to O'Neill on many of the budget issues in exchange for a stronger military, which helped defeat the USSR and prepared us for Iraq in 1991. This means Reagan communicated with, cooperated with, and made compromises with the opposing party, which is something that Obama has been unable and unwilling to do. Obama believes he was elected king, and all others must bow before him and accept his word as gospel. He is very good at making enemies, both at home and abroad. Reagan was not as arrogant as Obama, and was a much harder-working president.
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    Seriously, you seem pretty smart chem, but my goodness take off your partisan glasses. If you are to be believed, everything Reagan did was perfect and nothing Obama does is right. It's just absurd partisan nonsense to claim such dichotomies.
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    from Salon? Best laugh I've had today.
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    It's still un-Constitutional... IMHO. It's stealing from Peter to pay Paul... Or, a flat out theft ring orchestrated for the benefit of one group at the expense of another...

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