How many 5 star QB's panned out over the last 10 yrs?

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    I'd say 12 of the 28 listed have panned out but i'ts too early to judge 4 of them. It'd be interesting to see what % of 4 star QBs were successful.
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    Interesting site, thanks for posting it. I agree with what they said about all three of our past 5 star QB's .
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    That was pretty good. Of course when they mention Tebow, they have to discredit him by saying he was surrounded by good players - well, so were most of the others! Didn't he make them better also??!!
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    I don't think they discredited him in any way. This is the last sentence in the comment: "What a player, though!" Doesn't sound disparaging at all to me. By the way, wasn't Chris Leak a 5*?
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    I liked the last sentence but the tone of "he was surrounded by good players" took a little bit away from him - I thought. Why else would they have mentioned it??
    I believe you are correct though, Leak was a 5 star but maybe it was over 10 years ago (2003 but I'm sure a recruiting guru will correct me if I'm wrong).
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    Rhett Bomar wasn't a bust. Certainly a bonehead getting caught but he played very well in college.
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    Rankings are still an art, not a science.
    Some HUGE busts in that list.
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    Some strange categorizations there.

    Terrelle Pryor as merely a good career? It was a mess at the end, but not on the field.

    Rhett Bomar as a bust? When you say things like, By the second game of the 2005 season, Bomar became the starter and was the MVP of the Holiday Bowl against Oregon and, He went to Sam Houston State, and he finished as their all-time leading passer with 5,564 yards in 19 games? That seems different from a bust.

    Especially when you are going to list Mallett and Sanchez as living up to the hype.
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    Mallet was not a bust he should have started at Michigan as a freshman and rolled at arkansas
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    Driskel's got some work to do to stay off the naughty list.

    I thought the assessment of Tebow was fair. The receiving talent from that 2008 team was off the charts (Harvin, Murphy, Hernandez, Cooper and Nelson). Tebow's fifth passing option from that team got significant playing time with the Jets this season.
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    Saturday Down South does not write very compelling articles.
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    As we now know all too well, some of those good players (and the coach) were head cases. Tim was the glue that held that team together.
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    It sounds a lot like something that would come out of Merrill hodge ' s mouth or Stephen a. Smith " what a player, though! just not at QB" or "what a player, though! , great football player, and would even have him marry my daughter just not quarterback my team" SMH. The criticism he Received was a bit much IMO
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    Mark Sanchez, USC: ... He is most notably known for his 2012 butt fumble. :D
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    But there's another side to that logic: how many other players on that list could've done what Tebow did in that attack? Remember that Tebow was essentially Florida's short-yardage back in that offense. Tebow had a ridiculous build, he was able to engage in some of the most violent collisions I've ever seen a QB be a part of, and was somehow able to caveman his way for one first down after another...even against stacked fronts that knew exactly what was coming. His self play-action opened up a lot of room in the middle of the field on short, intermediate routes, held safeties to create one-on-one matchups on the outside, and I'm not sure a lot of other QBs on that list could've commanded the respect that he did from opposing defenses with their legs.

    Tebow was perhaps the most unique talent I've ever seen at his position; only to watch Cam go to Auburn and do a lot of the same things even better than Tim. But other than those two, who else?
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    I still remember the goal line collision he had with Eric berry and one other guy. 1 vs. 2 and he still made it in, though all involved got up looking woozy
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    I only remember one Tebow/Berry collision and it wasn't at the goalline. And it was basically a draw between the two. They had a lot of respect for each other, though.
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    I believe this was it:

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    QB position seems to be a tough position for scouts to grade out in high school. So many QB's are systems guys in high school. That's how you have 3 star guys running wish bone offenses busting out onto the college scene. Then you have another QB's playing in spread formations against lower quality opponents that get 5 stars. I think with all these camps and all star games they are getting much better at grading out qb's because scouts can see what kind of throws QB's can make, what kind of zip they have on the ball, and their delivery. But it still takes so much time to get use to new WR's so it's hard to demonstrate timing, pocket presence and accuracy with moving targets.
    I really hate saying system guys too... but unfortunately it's very true.

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