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    Yeah but is this because Microsoft is pushing Windows 8 on tablets, smart phones and other devices?

    I'd like to see the numbers on sales with just PC's involved.
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    Win 8.1 is suppose to remedy this...
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    Nope, Microsoft treated their loyal customers like idiots.

    They want us to believe that the "start" screen is back but its not the start screen, its a metro screen that you can customize. You know, like the metro screen you could already customize, just with the word "Start" slapped on there.

    As far as my personal computer goes, I may never buy Microsoft again.
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    I showed that in the other thread, too. Even on PCs it's outpacing Win 7 sales.
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    Perhaps they did but earlier in the year things were not looking that good. I haven't checked lately because it really didn't matter that much to me.


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    That's market share - almost every OS has lost market share due to fragmentation (people using Linux, OSX, Android, IOS as primary operating systems).

    In terms of hard numbers, it's still outselling Windows 7.
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    Never said it wasn't. This is what I said:

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    Again, that's a flawed metric. They were outpacing Win 7 sales from the first week.
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    No it's no. You are the one who insists on comparing them to 7 when I never said anything about any such comparison. It's you who are dragging this out into something it is not nor was intended to be.
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    What?

    You were the one that brought up sales, I just point out that Windows 8 has outpaced Windows 7 in sales.

    Market share has fragmented for *all* operating systems because of the growth of alternatives (Linux flavors, OSX, Windows, Android, IOS). That's why it's a flawed metric.
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    What you have done is to take something I said and extrapolate it out to something I didn't say. You then set up an argument based on what I didn't say. I think you know what kind of argument that is.

    From the initial post on sales I said they looked to be doing bad. I have already supplied one link to those thoughts and there is another one below. These were the kind of things I was reading and while the people I was reading may have been wrong I was not wrong in saying what I had read. That is totally irrefutable on your part.

    With the same sentence I added that it may have changed. When you said they were doing good I didn't argue. I stated that I had not kept up with it which was another truth.

    So exactly what is it you are arguing?

    http://www.gosugadget.com/2012/11/windows-8-sales-disappoint.html
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    :plain:

    I'm arguing this point you made:

    Now perhaps I misunderstood, but was not your implication that sales were bad, therefor showing users didn't like Windows 8? Since you now know that sales are better than the sales for Windows 7, would you then say that users *do* like Windows 8 because of the sales figures?

    When you came back with market share, I explained why that's a poor metric. Sales are sales. Market share tells a different story. In the last 6 months:

    Win 7: down ~ 30% web traffic marketshare
    Win 8: up ~ 7% web traffic marketshare
    Linux: up ~ 1% web traffic marketshare
    Android: up ~ 6% web traffic marketshare
    IOS: up ~ 8% web traffic marketshare
    OSX: down ~ 6% web traffic marketshare

    Win 8 is the only non-mobile OS with more than a 1% increase in marketshare in the last 6 months. Linux is barely up and OSX is down. Is that some indictment on OSX? Of course not - it's demonstrating the fragmentation of operating systems across dissonant devices.

    The #s say that Windows 8 is doing well compared to Windows 7 and even Windows XP (and significantly better than Windows Vista, obviously).
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    It was my implication (which is backed up by links) that I read sales were bad. I then plainly stated it may have changed. There is no argument about what I read. You showed they were better and I never argued that point at all. But that doesn't make what I first posted wrong in any way. That is our point of contention.
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    Right, but as I mentioned, sales were always good. What you posted was market share, not sales. I don't know why this is confusing.
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    This is not shares, it is actual numbers:

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    Doesn't matter where it is from. Doesn't even matter if it is factual. I based my post on things similar to this that I had read. Thus what I wrote was factual because I plainly stated it was what I had read.
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    And yet you don't seem to accept the alternative? I mean all I was doing was refuting the notion that people had spoken with their pocketbooks as some sort of indictment of Windows 8.
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    I don't think operating system sales are a way to point at the success or failure of an OS, since home buyers don't have much of a choice. If a home buyer needs a new computer they go to Best Buy or Walmart and they buy one off the shelf and their only choices for Windows machines are computers with Windows 8 preloaded on them.

    As far as Windows 8 for businesses, I have yet to see a company in my area deploy it on any non-test machines. In fact, over 90% of the people I've met in the industry, that I've discussed this with, have said no way will they roll out Windows 8 in their business. I even had an interviewer ask me about Windows 8 while I was in interviewing for jobs earlier this year and when I said "I wouldn't roll it out if it was up to me", he said good answer.
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    That's always a good answer.

    I have encountered a bunch of companies that just went to Windows 7 last year.

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