House considers food stamp work requirements

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    As I've said before they also need to make the food qualifications the same as WIC.

    Canned meat, milk, cheese, whole wheat bread, etc.

    No more steaks, ice cream, candy and snacks.
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    The house has voted to allow Ng to be exported without any regs to help America gain energy security first.

    They voted against funding for background checks on child predators.

    They voted against any food stamps at all.

    They vote against Americans most of the time but for multi-national corporations all the time.
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    Very possibly you are right about the liberal response.

    But here, you very much misunderstand liberals (and food stamp recipients, I believe).
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    They should!
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    Work!
    Don't say that word. It causes to many to break out in a rash.
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    voting for food stamps is a vote for multi-national corporations

    voting against them is a vote against multi-national corporations



    you need to reconsider your soundbytes against reality
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    Yup, these corporations would prefer no limits on what you could buy with food stamps.
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    Well, most of these same people voted for the farm-subsidies seperately which was a vote for "multi-national corporations." So basically, the talk about "corporations" is a red herring. Essentially, they'd rather subsidize corporations directly by giving them $ than indirectly by giving poor people $ to purchase food.
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    and yet they upped the amount for farm subsidies

    its quite amazing the difference in narrative that is portrayed with each one
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    A work requirement for welfare did great things before it was rendered... a much more flexible and amorphous thing. If one views fewer people on welfare as good, anyway. Would probably be a great idea for food stamps, as well.

    The idea of bringing it in line with WIC for eligible products is a no-brainer. You can't argue against that without basically arguing for SNAP waste/abuse.
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    We grow a lot of food here, and I am fine with limiting food stamps to only food and things that are truly needed like soap and toothpaste.

    But using the few cases of out right theft, to starve others, isn't something I can support.

    Go after those who abuse the system, not the helpless who need it.
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    Yup, the payment error rate is down to something like 4-5% (in 2009 anyway). It's really one of the most well-run and least wasteful programs out there. Like voter ID, food stamp reform is largely a solution in search of a problem.
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    About freakin' time. They also need to do this for disability, ssi etc. It's out of control.
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    Dad,

    Read the bible, you need it.
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    The bible is full of directions for how individuals should choose to act toward their fellow man. It doesn't justify so much as a single instance of 3rd parties using force to take from one and give to another. It wouldn't even be a charitable act by the 3rd party, let alone by the party that they took from.
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    Why would you need to be forced into helping the starving, anyhow.

    Do you kick the cane out from under the crippled also. Maybe not, but buying them one so they can walk is force in your book. BOOO to you.

    We pay taxes for many forced reasons. Picking out hunger while supporting anything else, is telling.
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    You taking my money from me is force, regardless of what you want to use it for. It isn't you being charitable in your cane purchase, and it certainly isn't me being charitable. In fact, you have deprived me of an opportunity to make a charitable choice with that same money. The net result is therefore injurious to the Christian charitable mission, not helpful to it, no matter how many canes you buy. The whole argument that the bible justifies state-enforced redistribution, no more how ersatz-charitable the goal, is intellectually hollow.
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    Never said the bible told you to wait on government to help. But acting like you got shot when they do is telling also. What I get from the bible is help for the needy comes before most things. Sorry to see your only concern is your taxation.

    So do you hate roads, bridges, airports, a military, police and firemen and everything you are forced to pay for. Or is it just the starving.

    People paid taxes before I was born, and will after I die. Doubt it is my fault that some get fed, but would be proud as hell if it were true.
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    The govt has become much more proactive in determining what you can and cannot buy with flexible spending debit cards (individually funded by payroll deductions as pre-tax). If you take toothpaste and medicine to the counter at CVS or Walgreens and try to use your Flexible Spending card, the machine will pay for the medicine but reject the toothpaste. Rightly so.

    And the same selectivity CAN be embedded into the food stamps program if the govt has the desire.

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