Hot seat question (Kiffin vs Richt)

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  1. palafornia
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    Friends,

    Between Georgia's loss and USC not covering at Hawaii, which coach's seat will be heating up the quickest?

    On the one hand, we all see Kiffin's tenure as finite at best

    On the other hand, a loss like that to Clemson on opening weekend could be demoralizing for an already over confident fan base needing little reason to fire Richt.

    I think Kiffin is toast after this season and their performance Saturday showed. What do y'all think?

    Go Gators
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    Kiffin's is already pretty warm. Another season like last or anything close to it and he's gone. Richt isn't going anywhere no matter what happens this year (within reason). A 3-point loss to an excellent offensive team playing at home at night in the first game of the season isn't a terrible loss.
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    Gotta agree with that. Richt just can't win the big one, or get over the hump it seems. Kiffin just plain sucks. :D
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    Richt's arguably the 3rd or 4th best coach in the SEC now that he's overcome his one real issue (mental block with Florida) . I hope they fire him it'd be great for Florida.
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    Richt's been super unlucky too- last 1 loss SEC champ not to get a title shot, if they had Bama luck 2007 gets them a title shot as well.
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    Richt has been really lucky with the schedule until this year. They've lost 3 in a row to SC, yet have been the East's rep in Atlanta 2 of the last 3 years. Does anyone think they beat LSU in Baton Rouge last year after their loss to FL (SC faced them the week following the GA game)? Rather be lucky than good every time.
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    Richt bought himself at least a couple of years by winning the SEC East and beating UF and GT last year. And he's signed through 2016. He's probably not going anywhere.

    Kiffin is squarely on the hot seat. Most people wanted him gone last year.

    But to your point, I'm not sure how much the results of either game particularly hurt either of them. Both were road games. Bottom line is USC won and UGA lost a close game on the road to a top 10 team.

    Now if UGA loses to USCe and then LSU and is 1-3, which is quite possible, things could change.
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    They lost two in 2007. UT and USC. Didn't even go to Atlanta. Technically, Florida was the last one-loss SEC team to not go to the BCS Championship -- not that they deserved to, in my opinion.

    Edit: Kiffin is obviously on the hotter seat. Richt keeps Georgia just good enough to not get fired.
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    Unfortunately, Richt's message will be we can still get there if we win the rest and the SEC championship. Having watched the early games, I believe this will be a bit of a down year for the conference with no one team being dominant to the extent Bama has been the last two. A non SEC team with a much weaker schedule will likely be the one to win the BCS. SEC teams will probably knock each other off and out of consideration.
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    If Kiffin and Richt both get fired, UGA will probably hire Kiffin, if it can outbid other schools for him. ("Let's grab him while he's available!")
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    I dunno. What if they bring themselves in a real coach? I'm happy keeping the known mediocre quality of Richt.
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    Please, please, please let that happen.
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    1 loss SEC Champ. And LSU also had two losses and played for the title- under Bama logic that means UGA was robbed of a shot.
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    Georgia started it off 0-2 last year and was 5 minutes from playing for the title. To start the season off against 2 Top 10 teams and losing both by close scores doesn't kill their season. I doubt we could have done better against Clemson. Georgia does lose a ton of offense with the loss of their best receiver. That hurt Murray big time.
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    USCw keeps Kiffin around to ride out the NCAA penalties (penalties he helped bring about, ironically) and to stock the cupboard for his successor. He is a good recruiter, despite the fact he's unethical about it.

    Richt bought himself some time last year by choking in the SECCG instead of choking against UF or GT. Mutt fans are used to the choking, so doing it against the eventual NC was quite impressive to the fan base.
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    A little twist to the question: how hot would Richt's seat be if UGA had UF's schedule the last 4-6 years?
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    Except that Ohio State was the only one-loss BCS team in the country that year. As much as America did not want to see an Ohio State University slapped down by another SEC champ, it wanted to give the Buckeyes a free MNC by playing Hawaii even less. LSU got in as a 2-loss SEC champ. Georgia, who watched the SECCG on TV, was never even a consideration.
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    Kiffin is the worst coach to be hired by multiple respected programs. He's never won anywhere he goes and he is a grade A douchebag.

    I think they will both be fired this season if they dont make and/or win their conference championship game.
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    Kirin is and always has been a garbage coach, his seat is on fire.

    Richt has taken the Florida series back for the first time since the 80's, he's safe for a long time.
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    I don't know about "safe for a long time," but I hardly think a loss to Clemson puts Richt on the hot seat. A win over Florida essentially nullifies a disappointing season, in the same way that for so long a loss to Florida nullifies a good season for him. If he were to lose to SC and Florida and end up 9-3 or worse given their preseason hype, there might be a case, but ultimately Garrity has to ask who would replace him. Firing a coach sounds great until you look around and ask who is worth disrupting recruiting, continuity, etc., in order to get. If it is an Urban Meyer or a Nick Saban, sure. But there just aren't that many like those in the world. A hot name could always vault up the list this year, though.

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