Hillary Has Some Explaining To Do

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    I don't expect much coming from the MSM since the Democrats have all their eggs in one basket for the presidential election.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...efused-to-brand-boko-haram-as-terrorists.htmlhttp://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...efused-to-brand-boko-haram-as-terrorists.html

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    Hillary has never had to explain anything, and there are a number of things that need to be explained. She is the media's darling and they will be her wingman and divert all criticism.
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    So from what I understand, over a year ago she was urged by multiple high-ranking officials from various agencies, to designate this group as a terrorist group. The designation would "allows U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies to use certain tools and authorities, including several found in the Patriot Act. The designation makes it illegal for any U.S. entities to do business with the group in question. It cuts off access to the U.S. financial system for the organization and anyone associating with it. And the designation also serves to stigmatize and isolate foreign organizations by encouraging other nations to take similar measures."

    Hilary herself has no response, but some around her seem to indicate the sole reasoning for not designating them as a terrorist group - was because, “There was a concern that putting Boko Haram on the foreign terrorist list would in fact raise its profile, give it greater publicity, give it greater credibility, help in its recruitment, and also probably drive more assistance in its direction.”(Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs Johnnie Carson, who served in that position from 2009 to 2013)

    Here we are a year or two later and guess what? They've kidnapped a couple of hundred little girls and their profile is now officially raised. So they didn't act out of fear that it would raise their notoriety, but instead the group grows to a size and has enough confidence to carry out an event big enough that their notoriety rises anyway.

    My take is that I wonder if Hilary didn't designate them as a terrorist group because a good portion of the people urging her to do so were Republicans. I wonder if this was a political move, otherwise, the explanations given for not designating them are really pretty weak.
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    He's a thug not a terrorist. Much like the warlords of Afghanistan in pre 9/11 days. labeling him a terrorist makes him our problem. He is not our problem.

    I give Hillary a tip of the hat on this one.
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    What difference, at this point, does it make???
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    once again the people concerned about how twitter is trending and what is happening on social sites are making decisions instead of seasoned professional tacticians. didn't want to designate because then they might trend higher, didn't respond because they thought it was a you tube video. who are these kids that are running our country and telling the figureheads what they want to hear so they can go parrot it to the masses?
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    People like Hillary though, G8tr. They don't know why really - they just do. She's sweet(I guess?), and a woman(who cares?). It doesn't matter whether she could actually be a good President by reasonable standards, or whether she has any kind of leadership or management abilities, all that matters is hey, we like her. Who needs seasoned tacticians when you can have celebriticians?
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    Drones baby. If you designate them a terrorist organization in modern America, you can blow them all to hell with drones.
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    Soho - Hillary could blow up a building and you would tip your hat to her.
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    On FoxNews the other day, the closed captions said that "Obamacare Haram" was responsible for the kidnappings.
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    If she runs, feel free to nominate a seasoned tactician against her and let's see what happens.
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    Fred, we all know you think she can win against essentially anyone. However, that doesn't necessarily mean she should win.
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    Isn't that the case in any election?

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    You don't debate the idea that in reality, she's probably not someone who we should really seriously be looking at to run our country? But it's okay, because at least at the end of the day its your team that "wins" because she bats for them?
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    If anyone actually wants the explanation of why Boka Haram was not designated a foreign terrorist organization years ago.
    http://edwardpentin.co.uk/nigeria-and-us-reluctant-to-label-boko-haram-a-terrorist-group/
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    I'm not debating that likability matters, I'm just debating the reasons why people decide to like someone in the first place.
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    Exactly. Hillary should not win in any election.
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    We've dumbed down the American population so much that this is the best we can do. It's all a popularity contest, with sub-categories for: telling the best lies, telling us what we want to hear, and getting in a good zinger in 15 seconds or less. Actual qualifications and experience were thrown out years ago. The debates for the 2016 elections will be reduced to an "America's Got Talent" format, with singing replaced by fictional story-telling that illustrates a political point. By 2024, political debates will be reduced to a "Price is Right" format, with contestants making up costs for public works projects and seeing if they can get the audience to believe their fictitious numbers. Contestants will be allowed to buy other politicians as they build up a supply of cash and prizes. In 2032, the nation will be in "Jeopardy".
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    Why someone didn't stand up and verbally smack her down on this still amazes me.
    The difference, Madam Secretary, is that the families of dead Americans want answers as to why they lost their loved ones. They deserve, at the very least, that from their government.

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