Highest Minimum-Wage State Washington Beats U.S. Job Growth

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    Not only do we have the highest minimum wage, but you have to pay people in the service industry the full amount. No paying waitstaff $3 and letting the tips make up the difference. Amazingly we still have plenty of small businesses and people still frequent them.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...t-minimum-wage-state-beats-u-s-with-jobs.html

    When Washington residents voted in 1998 to raise the state’s minimum wage and link it to the cost of living, opponents warned the measure would be a job-killer. The prediction hasn’t been borne out.

    In the 15 years that followed, the state’s minimum wage climbed to $9.32 -- the highest in the country. Meanwhile job growth continued at an average 0.8 percent annual pace, 0.3 percentage point above the national rate.
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    Also the state with many large and wealthy tech jobs.

    Also the state had a long way to go and is still at 7% unemployment.

    Don't see how the highest minimal wage can or can not be proving to effect this state at this point.
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    Are you saying were it not for the highest minimum wage that liberal Seattle (because let's be honest that's where those jobs are) would be even better off? Hard to believe that one of the most liberal cities in America would do so well, liberals screw up everything, or so I've read.
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    .8% job growth...that's impressive.

    Tell me: what's the job growth look like in NY, MA, NJ, and IL--all states that have higher minimum wage laws than the national average?
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    New Jersey's job growth was actually the highest it has been in a couple of years in January - the first month in which their new minimum wage increase was in effect.

    Obviously this doesn't suggest that raising the minimum wage creates jobs, but people - particularly laymen - tend to overstate the negative effect a higher minimum wage has on the job market as well.
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    While I generally agree that minimum wage hike fears are over blown and would happily pay more at the types of places people earn it, Washington might not be the best example. They have a median income about 18% over the national average so it's a bit easier to absorb than many parts of the country.
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    No, it's more like correlation ( likely coincidence, really) is not causation.
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    Cool. In a battle of 'what state's job growth sucks the least' Washington wins. Hooray.

    Let's just randomly raise the rates everywhere and like magic, jobs will fall from the sky.
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    Raising employee pay affects nothing but whether a CEO can afford yacht #3.
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    You also have more Bald Eagles than any other state...

    So, what's your point?
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    Incorrect. That would be Alaska followed by Minnesota and then Florida in bald eagle population.
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    NJ is also among the wealthiest states in the country (I believe #2 after MD) with a lot of high end jobs. It would be impossible to live in NJ and earn minimum wage without any other supplemental income. In addition it was reported the in Dec. lost 36K+ jobs and only had a net gain of 10K for all of 2013.
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    If one had money for a yacht, then one would also need people like Obama's base voters to work for him (upkeep). That is a real jobs stimulus item to buy. Also important to jobs creation is that the manufacturer/s needs to hire workers to build the yacht and all the cabinets/interior, and truckers are needed to bring in the supplies for the yacht. Don't forget all the subcontractors hiring people to do their part of the yacht...

    Yeah, yachts are so stupid, only the owner gets the reward in purchasing one of those boats that takes hundreds of people directly, and indirectly to build...
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    WA probably also has the highest percentage of flannel shirt wearers in the country.

    Maybe other states should promote job growth by mandating more flannel.
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    That would be Alaska Dave.
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    I think the last person to sport a large collection of flannel in Seattle was Kurt Cobain.
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    Florida surprised me because I've lived in Florida and Seattle about equal amounts and I've probably seen 10x the number of bald eagles here than I did there. Might just have been because as a kid I didn't care enough to look for them, or maybe just luck of the draw of where I've lived here vs. there.
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    Unemployment rate in Wyoming is about 4.5%

    Even though Wyoming has one of the lowest costs of living among the states, low unemployment drives higher wages absent a higher minimum wage law. The fast food places post on their marquees starting wages in the $9 area.

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