Hawaii football may be going away...

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    that would sux
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    Non power 5 schools will either die or switch to d2.
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    This will help recruiting.
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    I'm surprised the locals don't support the program more. They were pretty darn good under June Jones. I've been to a few of their games and it's a pretty good time. Hopefully they find a way to sustain. Seems they could find creative ways to bring teams in. Rather than pay a 1AA team to come in for a beating, they could invite a power 5 team that may be on probation or having a down year to play them in the last week of the season (like Bama did when they were on probation) as sort of a "bowl" game for the fans....and then charge them a fee.

    Or 1AA? (there is a difference)
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    More than you'll ever know.
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    Not a bad idea. I think there's actually some rule that teams playing at Hawaii can play a 13th game as a way to encourage teams to go out there, so it wouldn't even cost the team on probation a home game.
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    It's the same reason LA struggles with an NFL Team. If you are in Hawaii are you going to see them play? Travel costs for the team are also brutal.

    This will be the fate of a lot of teams. I see the Big Conferences having an 8 team play-off system with about 84 schools. This leaves the smaller programs to either start another Divison or drop football.
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    Hawaii has been known to produce some good offensive linemen. It would be nice if we could capitalize on this, but the PAC 10 and Mountain West schools seem to grab most of them.
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    Funny I cant remember a decent OL from THAT AREA wearing orange and blue.
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    They're in the Pack 12.
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    Maybe, the farther down schools go the less scholarships they need to worry about, Div 2 schools give very few, Div 3 schools don't give any.
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    Face it. You're just too small and not good enough.
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    Yeah, but could they have beaten us last year?
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    I have some great memories of watching them play late-night Saturdays on local L.A. TV, when nothing else was on. Back in the early '90s, then later under June Jones and especially during the 2007-ish run with Colt Brennan. Program had spirit and it was fun to watch the wide-open play. They caught some folks napping. Great stuff.

    Seems like the AD is poor-mouthing, and it is his right to do so. The football program dates back to beginning of 1900s, it's not going away.

    Erratum: No comparison between the NFL situation in L.A. and what goes on in Hawaii. L.A. is largely about blackouts, out-of-market games and fans' existing NFL loyalties elsewhere. And Hawaii plays in the Mountain West.
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    Been lucky enough to spend some time out there during football season and will be back this year. From my perspective, if I'm going to pay the $1000+ plane fare and $200+ a night in hotel bills, I am going to focus on doing things that I would not be able to do back on the mainland. My girlfriend is a big football fan and when she realized we would be there for a UH football game, she suggested going to it. I asked her if she would rather sit on a beach or watch a football game, and she voted emphatically for sitting on a beach.

    Football is a Haloe sport and for what I have seen, the natives aren't that interested in it as they have much more native sports that they are interested in.
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    I blacked out last year, what happened?
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    I bet it costs a lot to have a team there with travel etc. I oppose state funding for football or in general for sports at colleges. If they lose money they have to adapt in whatever way that they can.
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    Hawaii has always struggled financially with their athletic program. Former coach June Jones left partly due to the fact that UH was very cash strapped when it came to investing in their athletic facilities. However, I doubt they'll give up football entirely. The state still has an agreement with the NFL for the Pro Bowl. Just keeping the stadium open for high school games, the Hawaii Bowl, and the Pro Bowl doesn't make sense. They can't simply abandon it. They'll need to keep a college team in there. At the very least, they'll drop down to D2 (or whatever the next level will become below the Power 5)
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    This is part of a trend that has been going on for years that the autonomy of the Power 5 will only accelerate. If schools are going to have football programs, they will either go all in with player benefits to try to compete or they will go totally non-scholarship. Division 2 football and the current FCS football scholarship granting programs will go away.

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