Have we sacrificed scoring for TOP?

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  1. gator1986
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    I want what your smoking :)
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    Was that confirmed by muschamp, or your assumption? If it was on Trey, that does make me feel a little better on Drikel's over all performance. I agree on the blindside fumble. That's not on Jeff, IMO.
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    It was tweeted by one of the Gator Country reporters and was on the front page of GC following the game after interviewing Burton. I love Burton's scrappy play, but he had a bad game Saturday.
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    Interesting. Thx for sharing, I obviously missed it. That does make me feel better about Jeff's performance.
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    The second interception should have been a simple overthrow, but Quentin Dunbar failed to clear his man out like he was supposed to. It was his man that caught the interception.
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    And ugly win is like a bad climax.

    I don't believe in either.
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    Welp, case closed then. Thanks for coming everybody.
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    I agree! Hardly worth an entire thread, right?
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    LoL.
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    TOP is an overrated stat, scoring is not though. 23 against Lville - 26 against Toledo - 16 against Miami. Lost two of the three and none of them are anything close to a juggernaut on defense. That has to be a concern.
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    Saturday we sacrificed scoring for turnovers. (which I am sure has already been said in this thread)
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    Anything above 20 points should be enough to win with a good defense. And I can garununtee you coach Pease/Boom doesn't think TOP is overrated. It gives the offense proof that they did their jobs.
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    Here was the tweet that came shortly after the game. Saw another one that stated Tyler Moore was on crutches but haven't seen any other injury info.

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    They also possess a degree of likelihood for resulting in a score. If possessing the ball involves more risk, why not punt on 1st down?
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    Wow.

    Yeah, um, a lot of the risk in long drives, are plays that stall them. Penalties, inaccuracies, missed blocks, etc. Not just turnovers.
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    A large % of his throws are short and/or behind the LOS. Very easy throws for a college QB. I don't think completion % is a great stat to laud JD for in the offense we run.
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    Everyone knows including gator fans that our O is mostly run, throw in some high percentage passes and keep the chains moving. The thing is when we get stuffed at the line, or loss yardage, or get into a third and 7, we have basically 2 or 3 plays we use all the time and the jig is up. Short crossing pattern, or wr screen, or come back throw to wr of the 5 yard kind. O and of course throw in the penalties which we often commit and you end up with TOP but very little to show for it. Our O is not hard to figure out guys, we often know what's coming.

    Yet it's the gameplan with WM. Win with D. He is a D minded coach. Play keep away with ball, move the chains, score in red zone. Trouble is, we have trouble going mid level with passes, when we get in the red zone things tighten up, and inevitably we end up with 3rd and long. Right now JD is unable to pick that up. Rarely do we pass on first and when we do, it's the dink stuff because it's "high percentage". I really hope our fg kicker is good because I feel with this O he will be used often.

    Yes, I know fg's would have won vs miami, but i dont think it will work with the likes of uga, lsu, usce or sow. Especially uga, usce and sow who have a potent offense.
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    Most concerning is our inability to completely blow out the "cupcakes" on our schedule. Guys, that's indicative a major problem. Even Tenn blows out the weak competition. When we have to sweat out teams that are terribly overmatched that's far more than just a conservative O. That's a completely ineffective O.
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    first INT - terrible, terrible decision

    second INT - Burton ran the wrong route, so that's partially on him. However, you would expect a junior QB to have the presence of mind to notice the play breaking down and not heave the ball up for grabs regardless.

    fumble - Driskel has now fumbled three times in two games on blindside hits. The OL shares some blame for allowing the rusher to come free, but Jeff absolutely has to hold onto the ball in those situations.

    the bottom line for me is that JD is a great athlete with a rocket arm, but his pocket awareness, ball security, composure and decision-making are all below average for a player with his level of experience. If a QB hasn't improved those things at the point Driskel is at now in his career, it's generally not going to happen for him.
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    And even that wouldn't have been a pick if Dunbar hadn't ran the wrong route as well-- it was his man who caught the ball-- he should have never been in the same area as Trey.


    Routes are still an issue at times- look at the last play we ran- given the situation why are 3 of Jeff's options short of the first down? The only answer I can think of is a badly run hook and ladder?

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