Have we ever had 13 scholarship players available to play?

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    Assuming all goes as planned, next year, we'll have all 13 scholarship spots filled. Assuming no red shirts or suspensions, all 13 players should be available to play.

    I can't remember Donovan ever having all 13 spots available to play. Maybe the 2000 Final Four team?
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    I'm Half expecting Chris C. to redshirt. Depends if Carter can handle PG duties.
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    Either way, this will be the deepest team we've had since when?? 2000 maybe?
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    Basketball players rarely, rarely redshirt, and when they do it's usually because of injuries. The extremely rare players who do redshirt without injuries are extraordinarily raw prospects who just don't belong on the court their freshman year. If Donovan thinks Chiozza is capable of playing seven to 10 minutes a game as a freshman, Chiozza won't redshirt.
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    We only had ten guys on hand in 2010, I believe. Halton was injured.

    I think it is a rarity to have 13 scholarship players available. Most coaches don't want to play more than 8-9 anyway, but the biggest benefit seems to be full practices.

    On Chiozza, I would be shocked if he redshirts. He is competitive as heck and, with the possible that Hill could be gone a year from now, we would prefer getting him some exprience.
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    Makes sense.
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    The team that played for the 2000 title was pretty deep, but I do not know the total number of scholarship players off hand.
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    Barring injury, as rserina and Maddux noted, Chiozzo almost surely won't redshirt.

    The thing about the 2000 team was not the total number of players, but the fact that 10 of them played an average of some 15 minutes or more per game through the year, with Miller the only one over 24 at 28 per game. Donovan later said he wished he had redshirted Bonner, who was the last forward off the bench, behind Haslem, Wright & Harvey with Major Parker also capable of playing power forward, but usually backing Miller up at SF. In the NCAA tournament, Kenyon Weeks, a senior who was a starter most of his career, played very little because Hamilton, Dupay and Nelson were getting most of the guard minutes.
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    It would be nice to go 2-to-3 deep against the likes of a Kentucky and others.
    We'll probably be a more talented group next year...though not as successful.

    PG - Hill, Carter, Chiozza
    SG - Frazier, D Walker, Francis
    SF - DFS, Kurtz, Murphy
    PF - C Walker, Robinson
    C - Harris, Horford
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    Horford and Harris will both be 23-years old when the season starts and DoDo will be in his 4th year of college. We may have the biggest, deepest, and oldest front line in the country! :D
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    Hey Player, I really don't think your proposed depth chart is very likely.

    I mean Robinson weighs 200 lbs at the most, while DFS weighs 220 and Murphy weighs 230. Which coach in his right mind would play a 200 lb player at Power Forward and 20-30 lb heavier guys at Small Forward?

    Also, Bullis suggests that Carter may not recover well enough to play.

    I see Devon Walker playing the 3 with Robinson behind him or, perhaps, by the end of the year, in front of him.

    Finney-Smith will perhaps see some time at SF also, given the number of Big Men available now.
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    Isn't Dillon Graham also on scholarship? That would make it 14.
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    Which coach in his right mind?
    The same coach who put a 215 lb reserve player (C Walk) at PF & C....a desperate (and smart) one.
    Robinson has the hops, size and speed to play SF or PF and we have a log-jam at PG & SG & SF.
    He can jump higher and play bigger than Murphy and is certainly a lot more agile than Kurtz.
    Robinson is way too talented to sit on the bench while DFS plays the whole game.
    But clearly....anything can and will happen over the course of a season.
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    So, is Kurtz returning?
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    I think Carter will play. May not be as good as before but I think he will play. Hell, he played last year for the first 8 games or so. Just wasn't as smooth as before. No reason why he shouldn't be further along an entire year later.
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    Where will Hill be going ? Transfer ??
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    Yawn
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    This is correct. It was our deepest team not because it had more players (we had 10 scholarship players because Halton was out), but because we legitimately went 10 deep. We had a 10 man rotation throughout the season. I remember that Sweet 16 game against Duke, who went only 6 deep. A few minutes into the second half, Donovan did a full line change with 5 players checking in. We wore them out. If the link below doesn't work, go to the 40:06 mark.

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    Why does weight continue to come up when discussing Walker? Kevin Garnett, Joakim Noah, and Anthony Davis were all taller than Walker and about the same weight as him when they were playing in the post as young college stars (and NBA for Garnett). That's the type of player he is. He is never going to look like Pay Young/Dwight Howard, but that is not going to stop him from being a star.
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    I think it mainly has to do with the position he played for us last season. All of the guys you mentioned above played facing the basket offensively and they also spent a lot of time chasing shots defensively, but didn't body up on the blocks nearly as much. We played Walker at the five last year and it remains to be seen where he ends up this year. He will definitely have to get stronger, but it isn't a severe limitation by any stretch.

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