Has the Premise Changed

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    Very new here so please be gentle. It seemed when Florida was dominant FSU and other schools were able to recruit fairly well based on the old "immediate playing time" lingo. With that in mind why would Florida not be able to flip some of these OL candidates and get us back in the game. It would appear all we would need to do is have prospects watch film of our offensive linemen in action. Who wouldn't see the need for IMMEDIATE playing time? Has this approach lost some luster?
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    We have 3 good OL commits and get another later this week. The staff is also working on two other targets that have visits set up and we dont even have a OL coach. I actually dont think we have that much immediate playing time available on the OL. The OL class will be either really good or great
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    It is unbelievably hard for a freshman OL to play right away. Maybe the hardest of any position. I think very few staffs given offensive linemen the pitch for immediate playing time unless they are very developed.
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    This is one of my favorite and least fav things about WM as a recruiter. He's a straight shooter with these kids. He's not going to tell a kid he will come in and start if he thinks the kid is not ready to start right away and some kids don't like to hear that.
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    You are correct, reece, and that is the line Gator recruiters are using for almost every position, not merely OLine, because, in fact, next year's team looks very thing almost everywhere, even possibly in the defensive backfield where recruiting has been very good during Muschamps era.
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    Themistocles, I agree...very good point. Given this, how import will early enrollment be for '14 prospects versus other "no so thin" years?
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    Just make it your favorite. Don't worry about kids who need to be promised to play right away.
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    Nothing has changed. Immediate playing time is important to some, not so much to others. Immediate playing time was the key factor in getting David Sharpe.
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    Not doubting, but how do you know this is how Muschamp communicates? Are there a fair number of staffs that do offer early PT where it doesn't exist because of depth or ability?
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    Would you admit this is an extraordinary time in the football history at Florida? Do extraordinary circumstances USUALLY call for extraordinary measures or should it be business as usual? Just my humble opinion, but go after some guys who may have already told us "No" and say 'You know we have been thinking and we wanted to share our OL play from last year and see if maybe we can mutually agree that we could both benefit from you playing early?" Of course we would only say this to people who are REALLY good at positions of extreme need. I would rather have a kid who might struggle initially and grow into someone dominant at the position than a prospect who we know will definitely not be able to contribute early and may or may not ever be dominant. We don't have much to lose at this time and Will does not have a huge window of opportunity. He must know he is already going after kids who will be coached by someone else at some point.
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    Sorry. Should have said "Who MAY be coached by someone else at some time."
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    FSU appears to be successfully selling Jameis Winston turning every offense prospect into a 1st round draft choice. They leave out the part that next year is Winston's last and that Coker is transferring-so they have no proven QB talent after next year. Also being sold is the UF program is broken because we lost to Miami, FSU (them) Vandy & GA Southern (lower teams). If the program is so bad though (and you discount the injury theory) how did UF pretty much stomp FSU in Tallahassee last year with many guys of the same guys who are returning to UF next year?

    We are obviously selling Grier. Detractors are countering that he plays against extremely weak competition. Ignored here is the fact that Grier stood head and shoulders over the competition at the Rivals combines camps. I would be selling to guys like Grier, Cook, Lane, and Phillips that UF is a top notch program has more resources than FSU OR Miami. These guys can be the face of Florida football for the next decade IF they are the ones that take UF back to a national title. They can be like Harvin/Tebow or Danny/Fred/Ike&Reidel were of different Gator eras. At FSU that will not be the case. At Miami that would be the case but they won't have a Grier on campus.

    If Cook choses FSU he will have to share his role with Ryan Green. Pender is back and he is an everydown back. Carlos Williams is the inside runner. Wilder may or may not return as the other inside runner. Freeman looks as if he is leaving is more of an everydown back. Also the major pieces in the OL will be gone next year. At UF, Cook is the only runner with his style. We have 1 everydown back in Taylor. He could get probably 30-35% of the carries at UF and maybe only 10-15% at FSU. Miami could sell the same PT as UF with PT as Yearby may not be a go next fall. Cook and Duke are similar style rushers though and Miami is in dire need of a Wilder type to balance if Yearby is not available.

    Ermon Lane is more a debate of 1 year with Winston vs 3 years with Grier. 3 years is a long time and he knows Grier's talent. Benjamin and Shaw are gone but they have a core coming up. I can see playing time fairly similar in the pecking order at UF, FSU, or Miami for him. Its just who he wants to hitch his hat with for the next 3 years.
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    Gatoraz... Once again, you nailed it when it came to predicting that we would have another OL on board soon.
    Many of us deeply appreciate your inside information.
    You give us hope, Bro!

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