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Discussion in 'Nuttin' but Net' started by exiledgator, Jan 28, 2014.
Great article by Andy Huthcins.
In other words; who cares about the lack of coverage?
There's a certain irony here when numerous national articles are popping up about how the Gators are being "over-looked."
Truth of the matter is that the SEC is down and has been for some time. UF then Kentucky and then who?
We will get tons of a attention when we play Kentucky.
As it is, I think it's a good thing that we are not too much in the spotlight. Let's just keep getting better, hopefully add Chris Walker, win the SEC regular season title, win the SEC Tournament Title and make it to the Final Four.
I very much disagree.....just because we are perceived as being down doesn't mean that it's fact. The truth is that the tourney record of the SEC teams that they have been nice enough to let in the last few years has been very good. Vandy had some good teams. Arkansas, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss St. have all fielded quality caliber teams the last few years.
The ACC has been a joke the last few years and yet the committee has no issue putting 6-7 teams in every year while giving us maybe 4.
There have been a few SEC teams the past few years that were tourney quality and got the shaft. I expect the same to happen this year.
^^^ Well, let's just stick with this year since the OP is really dealing with the present. Who are legitimate SEC Sweet 16 threats? Two teams, that's it. It's not a great league this year.
Agreed except this year I think perception is more reality than other years. Missouri is still an absolute disaster on the road, LSU and Tennessee lost games they shouldn't OOC. Ole Miss and Arky played absolutely nobody. Only UK and UF at least OOC look competent. Missouri did, till you know, they weren't the home team.
While madgator makes a good point regarding past tourney performance, the fact is that this year's SEC had the worst non-conference winning percentage among power conference. The SEC also has the worst conference rpi among power conferences.
I don't think the SEC is nearly as bad as its media perception, but the numbers demonstrate that the SEC is not among the best. It doesn't help when teams like Bama, UT, and Ole Miss perform poorly out of conference. Heck, Texas A&M got BLOWN OUT by the Mean Green of North Texas (rpi 146).
Three of Missouri's four losses are to SEC teams. The only other one was to Illinois at a neutral site. I think perhaps you are referring to Arkansas.
UT needs to get their act together. Except when they play Florida again that is.
Where is the point for true past success outside of UF and KY over the last three years regarding the tournament? I think the Sweet 16 is a good measure. Last year, UF was the only Sweet 16 team from the SEC and in 2011 and 2012, UF and KY were both in the Sweet 16.
When it gets down to it (outside of UF and KY) the SEC has not been a big player on the national scene in the recent past.
I think UT may have made the Sweet 16 in 2010??? But the SEC as a whole has not made a lot of noise in the tourney in recent past, outside of UF and KY.
True, but even going back to last year, we had 3 teams get in. One lost the first game and one lost the second game. The SEC didn't prove it was worthy of more selections.
I don't think this is a case of Florida being treated unfairly by the media. Honestly, the media loves Billy Donovan and it's always good for the sport when a new "blueblood" emerges into the fold.
I think Andy makes some really good points, and what really matters is that this program continues to win under BD, and it's honestly to the point where even if he left, the program would probably be OK. He's built it up that high off of the ground.
I'm not the one to ever complain about "disrespect" from the media, but it really is weird how teams like Kansas has "improved so much" since we beat them, but so many people seem to think Florida is the exact team as it was back in early December.
LSU had their one good year where they reached the final four, i think it was 06 or 07
We're just an outside shooter and another inside presence (C Wok?) away from winning it all.
The NCAA tournament is just too unpredictable. This team could win it all with neither, or lose in the 2nd/3rd round with both. Probabilities exist, but any such projection is questionable at best. I'm sure there are many teams whose fans feel they "only need one or two players."
We have two losses, at Wisconsin, close, with half a team and at UConn, with 3/4 a team and lost on a fluke bounce, we have beaten the darling Kansas handily and have handled adversity at Arky, Bama and Aub without being threatened, a loss at Rupp, maybe one other hiccup and we roll in as a 1, 2 or 3 seed, maybe the mythical Chris Walker shores us up against injury or foul trouble and BOOM! Best I have felt since year two of the 04's
Although every conference always fields a few pretty good team (especially when you have 14 teams to choose from), I think it is pretty clear that the SEC has been less powerful the past 2 or 3 years than in the past.
And yes, until adding the Big East teams this year, who are, no surprise, dominating the conference, the ACC has had perhaps 2 or 3 decent teams each year for the past several years. However, they are the darlings of the Washington and somewhat North media (formerly behind the Big East in Basketball, but the Catholic league just doesn't have the same draw. So this year, the ACC actually has some good teams in it, and Virginia has been playing pretty well. So the usually leaders now have respectively 2 (Duke - one at Catholic Notre Dame) and 4 (North Carolina) conference losses.
May I play devil's advocate here?
We also have three wins, close, that could have easily gone the other way, beating FSU, Memphis, and Arky by a combined five points.
I'm not sure that a six point win at home qualifies as "handily".
I agree with the "handled adversity", but I don't think that there is any way to justify the "without being threatened" part. We fully went to overtime to Arky, after they missed the front end of a one and one, and we hit a buzzer beater. Against Auburn, we were in a one point game with under two minutes to go. I'll give you Bama though.
Don't get me wrong: I think this is a good team as well. However, we've had good teams for the last three years (and last year may have been a great team). I just don't think that we should let our record at this point get our hopes too high. We have played a decent, but not elite, schedule, and numerically we are actually closer to closer to having five losses (8 points) than to being undefeated (9 points). Tennessee was our best effort yet, so I'm definitely optimistic, but we still have a long way to go.
Ok, so out of FSU, Memphis, Arky and KU only @Arky were we truly fortunate to come out with a win. And we beat a team that had won 23 straight sooooo that says something about the character of this team. The other three may have been close but UF was in control for the majority of the game namely KU and FSU where only late runs made it close. KU was being run out of the gym. So let's not pretend these were all nail-biters for 40 min. And, yes we have played an elite schedule. You fail to mention that we've only had our full compliment of players the last month or so max. hard to gel with so many injuries, suspensions, etc.
This team is really good. Anything can happen certainly but when you play defense the way they play you can beat anyone.