Gville as a baseball town

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    So how long does forever go for you? How long have you been seeing live Florida Baseball games? I don't agree with you. Also like anything else the product will make a difference.
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    That was not any kind of answer. Florida has had some great fans over the 47 years I have been watching Florida baseball. The college game has been damaged by the changes in the bats and the balls. It is not much fun to watch. How many home runs are being hit? How many runs are being scored? No part of the country cares for baseball like they did years ago and Gainesville is no different. Then you take early non conference games in the best part of basketball season and you will not draw a great crowd either. Top that off with a team that is not playing well and you get what you see. Watch and see the crowds that the lady softball games bring in and you might realize it is not the game itself but the changes and bad play combo that have hurt the attendance. I also think some of the no fun rules have kept many students away.
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    I can attest to his softball comment. Attendance has gone WAY up, as the years have gone by, since Walton arrived.
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    Dead bats sure aren't helping. College baseball is much more boring than it was in the 90's and 00's. Plus, everyone's spending their time packed around the O-Dome. fsu and the rest of the SEC (sans Kentucky) don't have any competing spring sports.
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    Yet the state as a whole - and Tampa Bay specifically - turn out several 1st rounders every year.

    P.S. Rays attendance has more to do with the stadium (crappy) and location (crappy) than anything. Granted, we will never draw like Boston and other northern teams, but it would improve greatly (from last place) from a better stadium situation.
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    Says you. I personally love the trend back to real baseball. You can keep that beer-league softball crap where JD Drew hits 6 HRs in a single game. Bleck.
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    Every coach I have heard interviewed and ask about the bats and balls being used today feel there is a need for change. They don't want it back where it was before but it has gone to far the other way. What they need is to use the same stuff the pros use. I think that happens soon as there is a change coming in the NCAA from the larger division 1 schools and that will make it possible. Back in the 60's myself and other kids would ride our bikes to the Gator baseball games and watch them play and get the broken bats. At that time the games were played in the middle of the afternoon on week days.
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    College baseball got better without the aluminum bats. Pitching and small ball matter more, and they should. There is no defensive strategy for 400 foot shots off the end of the bat and doubles on pitches the batter got jammed on. Aluminum bats were to college baseball what steroids have been to MLB. Good riddance.
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    Is it really that difficult to understand that's it gone too far in the other direction? The national champion having a .250 team batting average and 19 total home runs is just as stupid as having a .350 team batting average and 119 homers. Today's pitching stats are just as artificial and inflated as offensive numbers were in the 90's.

    Apparently everybody missed the entire decade of the 00's after they first toned down the bats and the game was just fine. The 21-14 title game was 16 years ago and people are still acting like it was yesterday.
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    Just go to wood. A large percentage of the summer travel tournaments are now wood, the guys like playing with wood, and the newer wood bats seem to last much longer.
    Many of the wood bats now have a non-wood core. My son uses a Baum bat and it has lasted a full year and has great pop. One season and the guys claim their BBCOR bats are dead and need another $300-400 bat.
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    During the Baseball America podcast this week, they mentioned that they spoke to a coach who bunted 3 straight times because he thought his team had a better chance to score runs by waiting for the defense to screw up than by letting his team swing away with these bats. Doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out which coach that was.
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    Here is your 2013 Attendance Report for June 4th from the NCBWA.

    By Average (min. 1,200)
    School Avg. Total #
    1. LSU 10,954 449,138 41
    2. Arkansas 8,335 250,055 30
    3. Ole Miss 7,996 239,909 30
    4. Mississippi State 7,617 281,840 37
    5. South Carolina 7,445 260,605 35
    6. Texas 5,793 185,400 32
    7. Clemson 4,751 147,296 31
    8. Florida State 4,611 175,227 38
    9. Texas A&M 4,523 149,263 33
    10. Creighton 4,041 88,916 22
    11. TCU 3,570 107,117 30
    12. Florida 3,511 126,421 36
    13. Hawaii 3,357 97,355 29
    14. Alabama 3,262 101,137 31
    15. Rice 3,252 97,582 30
    16. Southern Miss 3,147 91,286 29
    17. Virginia 3,093 114,462 37
    18. Baylor 2,873 77,572 27
    19. Nebraska 2,864 45,837 16
    20. Arizona State 2,809 78,669 28
    21. Arizona 2,733 103,877 38
    22. Wichita State 2,698 86,366 32
    23. Auburn 2,657 85,049 32
    24. Vanderbilt 2,654 103,520 39
    25. Miami, Fla. 2,635 97,515 37

    http://www.collegebaseballdaily.com/2013/06/04/2013-ncbwa-attendance-report-june-4th/
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    Yeah, against Maryland I think. It was a helluva game.
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    This makes no sense to me at all when people talk about NCAA > NBA & MLB. College play as a whole is worse than in the pros. The talent is much much better. You see the best pitching, defense, and hitting.
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    It's not about the level of talent because obviously the talent is the pros is going to be better than college. I think most people are referring to the intangibles of college sports being better - the emotion from the players, players actually caring whether they win or lose, things like that.
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    Ah...I gotcha. I don't know if that's true but it's easier to see those things in a game or situation where there is something at stake...a conference title, a possible contract, draft position, a pennant.

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