Government spying on the American Spectator

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    some of us make up for it by never looking at it at all...
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    You would think that the liberal IRS would learn something by reading the American Spectator.

    I guess there are a lot of people who are too blind to see.
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    The OP is absurd on many levels. Even if it's true (and remember, this is the American Spectator), so what? It could mean that federal employees are looking at the site. If there was data that showed lots of federal govt computers looking at Media Matters, conservatives would complain that they were in allegiance.
    But given that conservatives are always ready to play the victim, now looking a site is somehow threatening, dangerous. So make sure you send the Spectator some money!
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    I'd take anything asking for donations with a grain of salt.
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    it may well have some very gullible readers.
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    There are more things in life than trying to find things to be mad about...
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    Technologically speaking, if they asserted through logs who was there, it's almost undoubtedly people looking at the web site.

    Spoofing IP, network and user agent is so trivial that a middle schooler could do it.
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    I'm also willing to bet heavily they've confused page views and/or hits with visits.
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    I know that sites can track unique viewers, etc. Can they really track each visitor's computer well enough to know that it came from IRS.gov, for example?
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    So...federal employees spend the day using government computers to randomly search the web for personal reasons? All rightie then!
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    Absolutely. When you make a request it will often include a network identifier, too. Any analytics software will allow you to see this very plainly.

    A spider - which, if the government were really "spying" on a site, they'd use - would likely not include this detail. More importantly, it would probably come via proxy.

    Two scenarios:

    1. I knock on your door, clearly identify myself and ask if I can come in. You agree and I enter.

    2. I peer through your window

    Visiting a site while declaring your network, IP, user agent, etc. is akin to #1. That's what they've ascertained here. They're no more spying than anyone else that visits the site.

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