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    Those damn flanks always did screw poor JEB up

    Funny but I do pay taxes in Richmond...it's where I live

    Looks like he's still trying to figure out what went wrong :eek:
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    I've always wondered (at least from the time I moved temporarily to Florida) why some people never got over the civil war.
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    Why should they?
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    I think it is a cultural thing and you would have had to have been raised where it mattered to understand. As an adult, I understand why the war was fought, why it had to be fought, and why it is a good thing the forces my ancestors fought with lost. But as a kid, it fired my imagination and made more real by visiting/touring old battlefields. Wm. Faulkner understood this:

    Yesterday won't be over until tomorrow and tomorrow began ten thousand years ago. For every Southern boy fourteen years old, not once but whenever he wants it, there is the instant when it's still not yet two o'clock on that July afternoon in 1863, the brigades are in position behind the rail fence, the guns are laid and ready in the woods and the furled flags are already loosened to break out
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    Because no matter how many times southerners reenact battles, they aren't going to change the outcome :D
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    Yeah but we are a hardheaded bunch. The funny thing is all those Yankees think we are just doing that for fun. :p
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    jdr we realize that-we just do the reenactments because it bothers a lot of yankee folk

    my issue is nawthanuhs who come down here and think they have the right to tell us how to do things because of how they did it up nawth
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    0r for our entertainment haha

    Having lived in Richmond for seven years now, I can say that I've gotten a good understanding for that hard-headedness. Many old southern organizations that are tied to the War of the Rebellion still exist--or should I say, still thrive here. I guess that is what losing such a epic battle will do as I don't know anyone where I am from that has such an attachment to it the way southerners do (not meant to be condescending, just an observation).
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    Yeah, there's a lot of folks from the north here and we are still called "come heres" in Richmond. No one likes outsiders if they don't try to fit in. Then again, I think sometimes folks in the south mistake our nawthun style for arrogance :)
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    In my younger days I used to have a bumper sticker that said I-95 runs both ways-then I started my own business and said wow their money is green too
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    shhhhhhh. It's fun watching :D
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    Yes it is! And us Yankees spend quite a bit of it in the south, I know I do...
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    All joking aside the war did damage to the Southern economy that is still being felt today. And by Southern I mean all of the states that seceded.
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    You would have to understand how "reconstruction" was inflicted on the South and how the injustices of that period took everything from your family to know why many Southerners refuse to forget the past. Most of them were poor farmers who never owned a slave. My family were English settlers who farmed the land and paid a dear price for their belief in states rights. The arrogance of many northerners is a reminder of how the South was repeatedly kicked when it was on its back and defenseless.
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    Some suggested reading from Bill on letting go: http://www.forbes.com/sites/cheryls...tally-strong-people-the-13-things-they-avoid/
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    I am not so sure we can attribute it only to the civil war, but to our founding, which brought about the central most institution which led to the war in the first place. Fortunately or unfortunately, we have inherited a country as it is, not one that we created. Yet look how such past issues are still alive; the perverse institution and war that it helped cause clearly have ripple effects to this day, not only with the southern economy, societal wide in the way we are socioeconomically stratified and even the way in which we interpret and talk about such issues, which as it were, still creates a rift whose fault line is more or less the Missouri Line.
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    If the South could only go back to the Jim Crow era as Phil Robertson so fondly
    reminiscenced.
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    That slavery thing needed to end. The southern economy was on the backs of slaves.
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    Lincoln invaded the South in order to hold the union together not free the slaves.

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