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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by bposs, Jul 9, 2013.
Hence the last sentence in my post
I agree with the fact you cant force people to do something, with the exception of eating from a tube, it just seemed there was a tone on here that some people would just have us mow down any suspect who wasnt born here simply because its easier. My post was just a reflection as to what my thoughts were on what we stand for and an explanation as to why we tend to treat others better than we are treated by them. It's a standard we've set with little room for error.
I'm with you on it, and obob for that matter. I do think, even enemy combatants, should be treated in a certain fashion that doesn't necessarily contain torturous elements. However, Mos Def is wasting him time trying to demonstrate how painful it is that we're actually helping them -- What if we gave them an ultimatum, eat today or never eat again? We wouldn't be forcing them to do anything, and they would only starve to death on their own accord, would that be more reasonable? I mean, who really knows what goes in Guantanmo, but I'd be willing to bet it's still significantly(leaps and bounds) ahead of whatever is going on in any other country's military camps.
I don't think "better than some other hypothetical treatment" should be our baseline.
And yes, typically the goal with a hunger strike is to bring attention to something with the very real risk of dying. I don't think anyone who chooses to go on a hunger strike is unaware of that.
I disagree, when you can demonstrate and visualize that the "humane" act of keeping someone alive via force feeding is also an act of state violence, it makes the premise of their detainment all the more precarious.
Ham and eggs each morning is the way to go...
I'm for military trials for all of them asap. Those found guilty of being complicit in the deaths of Americans should face a firing squad that same day. The others should be returned to where they were captured by whatever means necessary. We didn't let Pakistan's sovereignty get in the way of killing OBL and the same applies to returning those Gitmo prisoners found not guilty of any crime. I think parachuting them into their home countries would be a novel way to send them home.