Gasoline? NatGas? Take your pick, GM says

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    Seems to be a good idea. How well it translates into sales, which includes affordability, is another thing.

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    interesting that GM is pushing NG when the infrastructure is not readily available.

    Now something I noticed recently that the European cars... (BMW, Audi, Porsche) have been promoting through advertising is their clean diesels

    I have a client who has a diesel Porsche Cayenne and raves about it. He has performance and still is getting 25-30 mpg
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    there are home refueling stations available and cheaper ones in the pipeline for houses that have nat gas service.

    nat gas at current prices delivers the same power that gas or diesel does for less than half the cost.
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    just did a check around me- closest fill up station is in Clearwater 2.5+ hours away
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    Electric infrastructure is easy.

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    who wants to travel on I-4 or I-95 in a golf cart
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    show me an electric truck with torque to pull a boat or enough room to carry 8 and luggage and can be refilled in a matter of minutes
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    Natural gas cars and trucks bring a small fortune at car auctions. I watched 3 2003 Honda Civics sell for $13,000 each at the Mannheim Daytona Beach auction . The buyer a dealer from Texas told me he was shipping them back to Texas and sell them in California could make $3500.00 each because of the home fueling stations there. There were numerous Ford pickups selling and all these vehicles were owned by the Fed Government
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    Not a golf cart:

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    Not on market. Yet. But if you're looking for torque, electric where's it's at, yo!
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    not waiting for a reply from Bill..

    " but I'm 6'5 and 300 lbs.... I need a BIG truck" :grin: just messing with ya Big guy!
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    if it runs on electric it is a golf cart, a suped up fancy azz golf cart but a golf cart - the other thing about these green cars is the ones that are supposed to be really nice-no one can afford them and the companies that are building them have heep big financial issues
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    I'm really not trying to derail this thread. I even put a rare emoticon on my infrastructure post, but now I can't help myself.

    What makes it a "golf cart" exactly? Because it's propelled by electricity? Is there something inherent in electric motors that you take issue with?

    Also, plenty of people can afford them. I can't but the Tesla S is leading its class.

    Tesla is in no financial trouble, paid back gov't assistance a looong time ago, and currently has a market cap of BB$29; half of GMs.
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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/04/us-naturalgas-home-refueling-insight-idUSBRE9930D120131004

    when they can mass produce nat gas vehicles the price differential should be eliminated, same for big rigs. if the gubmnt were serious about solving our energy problems they would have been funding this instead of solyndra and chinese windmills but carbon is bad and must be killed.
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    Thanks for the links. I'm fairly well versed in Tesla's history, but I'm always open to new insight. Sadly, this isn't it.

    Your google search produced one article from 2008 (which we'll ignore for obvious reasons) and another from February of this year. While the title has the word "collapse" in it, the article itself actual describes the tumultuous, but profitable path of Tesla.

    You can try all the key words you want, but you're gonna have a hard time proving Tesla a failure in any way.
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    I recently purchased a Volkswagen Jetta TDI Diesel Gets around 43 MPG highway and 48 around town Costs about $ 2200.00 more than Gasoline powered Jetta This car has as much pep and pickup as most gas powered cars great car
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    I see your F-150 and raise you a train.
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    Yeah. Trains! They run on diesel. Electric motors are stupid.

    ;)
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    die I understand how good a diesel car is and the power it has-I bought my 18 year old a VW golf diesel to take to UF and it gets great mileage- I don't fit in it or the Jetta but great little cars

    exile all I saw was Oct and thought it was current

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