FSU admits major NCAA violation in BB gun incident

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  1. thedude60

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    If anyone reads carefully fsu's promise to the authorities on jameis's shooting out $ 4,000.00 of windows just days before the rape, did they not agree the windows would be paid for if no charges were filed? Read the story carefully. We are now talking about major violations given to a student athlete by the school and the authorities in tally. I would also love for the NY Times to follow the trail of who slipped the money to Mr. Cromwell, the Atlanta attorney who " represents major professional sport figures in these issues ? When will the state mullet wrappers get involved in the biggest sport-criminal issue ever to hit our state.
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    The NYT sucks and I wouldn't trust them with any story. Sorry!
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    The NY Times is still a very respected newspaper, i'm not sure where the "smut journalism" comment is coming from. Is it the best news source out there? No, but they still do quality reporting. And the piece on Jameis Winston was well written. Regardless, the OP brought up a salient point, I wonder what the response will be from officials, etc.
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    A. FSU didn't "admit" this, it was reported by the Times.

    B. If we assume it's true (and I do), do we know this was a tit-for-tat exchange? Even an implicit tit-for-tat would not be a violation because there needs to be evidence this was offered specifically so no charges would be filed.

    C. Do we know that some legal remediation isn't permitted by the NCAA? I'd imagine that this would follow under any such umbrella.
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    I thought I recalled that the players involved were charged with a misdemeanors and agreed to pay for the damages. Wasn't this reported way back when the original rape allegation broke?
    There was the BB gun incident and the soda stealing incident.
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    I'm not sure B is accurate . If the players broke the windows, then there is potential civil and criminal liability. I don't think it matters why fsu paid for them (if in fact it did), it is still providing a benefit to the players.
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    And for all of the NY Times bashers, that liberal media is about to bust FSU's ass. May turn some of you red to blue.
    We don't care how you done it up North!
    The South will rise again!
    New York City? Get a rope!

    Relax man. It's a good thing that the Times is on this.
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    I don't think FSU paid for the damages. I think they made the players pay for the damages. I will try and find the story.
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    I've had these questions since the story broke. I figured if there were any obvious violations they would be looked into since it became so public after the rape accusation. I never did hear an explanation asto how the windows were paid for and if it was a violation if the university did.
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    I don't know Winsotn's financial situation so i won't assume but I can say that I would have had a hard time paying $4000 back in a timely manner when I was at UF. It just seems flippant to say oh he will pay for this, we're cool
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    Give the story a read, there were four players involved not just Winston (or so it seems). Winston would not have had to pay $4,000 but a portion of it (assuming $1,000).
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    Those incidents demonstrated (reinforced?) an underlying belief that they can do whatever they want to and not be held accountable.

    While rape is a big step up in severity, it is clear they were correct in that belief. They can rape girls, get caught, and not even be investigated by TPD, while continuing to enjoy support from UFS (University of Forced Sex) as their young star recruit identified them.
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    yes that occurred to me after i posted it.
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    Why do you all keep saying he raped someone? It was obviously consensual, any clown should know that, and there was no mention of the swiftness of justice on Greg Dent. Why did the NYT fail to mention the Dent case, but brought up the Johnson case that was aquitted? They say it was a problem because Bowden defended his player AND he turned out to be innocent, the HORROR!
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    You must have been there, did you get some video of it too?
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    You sound like U$C fans during the Reggie Bush situation.....
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    No sweat
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    Good God man. You were there? While many here believe he may have raped her the overwhelming majority myself included have a problem with how the investigation or lack thereof went not to mention the OBVIOUS conflict of interests by the "investigating" parties.

    You really believe that is the way normal investigations are performed? Do you lend any creedance to the fact that the alleged victim claims she was never uncooperative nor informed the investigations was suspended? How about your good ole boy willie megs take on the numerous inexplicable mistakes (not that he has clean hands himself) or that his assistant said she only thought a conviction was not possible not that something didn't happen?

    What's it like having the flexibility of a circus contortionist when it comes to morals? But you know what happened
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