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    Maybe, but he's way ahead of where Carter was this time last year.
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    Carter?????????????????
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    I think he meant Chris Walker.
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    Hope this is a matter of delaying Francis' entry to UF rather than nixing it altogether.
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    Once again, the NCAA proves that it should have it's "tail cut off right behind it's ears."
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    What's the issue with your player?
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    He came over from the DR just a few years ago so it could be that.
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    That's silly let the guy play !
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    You have to wonder if he had gone to UNC-Chapel Hill if there would even be a question. Clearly what academics they do after enrolling at UNC-Chapel Hell don't matter.
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    Getting into UNC wasn't the easy part; getting through it was.
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    The issue may or may not be related to his high school...I believe ACD in the JAX area. I think ACD has had accreditation issues in the past that may be playing a part here...

    This would explain why UF could make a decision to admit and allow him to enroll while the NCAA says he cannot be part of the team until a resolution has been reached, which I believe is in the works.

    I predict he won't practice/play until after the Fall term ends...just a wild guess.
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    It was classes he took in the Dominican Republic
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    I was wondering what the difference might be between this situation and Walker's last season when he couldn't enroll.

    I also don't get why an enrolled prospective scholarship player couldn't practice with the team. Hypothetically (and I'm pretty sure it has actually happened), if Donovan was short on players for practice due to injury and he knew of a decent non-scholarship player/UF "Joe-Blow" student who could provide "a body" at practice, can't he invite such a student to practice with the team? Do those guys have to become "walk-ons" in some official way? Would a prospective scholarship student-athlete who is awaiting some kind of elgibility issue not be allowed to be a "walk-on" until his status is cleared up - specifically because he is supposed to be a scholarship athlete soon?
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    Regarding accreditation, I should perhaps let you know just what an absurd thing that it.

    The several so-called Academic Accreditation Agencies are, much like the NCAA, essentially a complete waste of time, resources and money, as Sperling and Tucker describe well in their excellent 1997 treatise: " For~Profit Higher Education: Developing a World~Class Workforce."

    First of all, there really is no such thing as an individual "education" institutions, because all in fact are nothing but a complex of interacting components (English, Foreign Language, Mathematics, Sciences, Social Sciences, Administration, Janitorial and food preparation people, etc..). Each student in any "learning" environment, interacts with a different subset of components and experiences each situation in a fashion different than any other student.

    It is typical Western oversimplification that allows idiotic groups like the NCAA and SACS (The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools - Accreditation body for k-12 in the southeast), to hold such power. A power they absolutely should not be allowed to hold, any more that Adolph Hitler should have held power in Germany.
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    Both practicing based on what I hear. Neither back to 100% yet. Maybe 80%. Still plenty of time left for full recovery before season gets underway.
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    you are correct
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    Thanks Osiris for the Vital Information.

    Foreign classes from a country or state that this country, or perhaps Florida, for some reason, might deem inferior, is a very typical form of prejudicial treatment we see throughout this country and the world, with a very few exceptions.

    That may be a factor, but most likely it is a matter of meeting eligibility requirements, although those of SUS institutions are about as stringent as any anywhere, so, the fact that UF's admissions office passed him, but the NCAA (once again) act like Jerks, suggests that this is merely part of their typical idiocy.

    Actually, regarding specific courses this does actually make some sense for the Schools. In Florida, there is a system wide requirement that each student must pass 19 core courses that include English, Physical Sciences, Social Sciences, History, etc. Each course and type is associated with a "Number" in the Common Course Numbering System, which associates with a specific discipline/sub-discipline because from a course's title, you really can't necessarily tell what it entails/covers. Not infrequently, kids, like Chris Walker, went to rural high schools that aren't large enough, or don't have the resources, to offer courses that fit all 19 requirements, this is one reason for the dual-enrollment boost with local community colleges several years ago, to try to make sure that every student could get required courses and, in fact, at least an AA degree, within 30 minutes drive from their home (the second was the primary purpose behind the State's move).

    Anyway, this makes it clear to me what the issue is, but, as I noted, Florida's Public Universities have about the tightest restrictions on such things as any in the Nation (maybe not Japan, but here). So, once again, it is merely the NCAA;s prejudice against Southern Schools not named Texas, Alabama, Kentucky or Georgia that we are witnessing here.
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    But somehow the Canadian players like Wiggins or the guys playing at basketball factories pretending to be high schools never get flagged just our guys.
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