For a brighter future Republican leadership needs.....

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    you forgot to explain what I made up.
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    The Tea Party is nothing like anything you've espoused.
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    I was waiting for that too.
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    I know, you can't explain it. I would suggest that you quit making accusations that you can't back up.
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    Taking Cruz... turning him into the quintessential Tea Party member and discrediting him by say he's believes everything (that's not the case) Jessie Helms believed in isn't mischaracterizing Cruz's intent. And by association you're mischaracterizing the Tea Party movement thinking he's the head representative to the entire movement?

    Or did I read several of your posts wrong? One person doesn't speak for the Tea Party.
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    Pretty hard not to consider the Tea Party a bunch of extremist nut jobs when they continually produce stuff like this:

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    Because differences in immigration law at the relevant times make it a moot point where Cruz was born, whereas Obama's mother's circumstances were such that he had to be born in the US to be eligible for citizenship at birth, i.e. natural born?
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    What a circle jerk... TP was a grass roots/bottom up/ loose knit group of people fed up with the status quo. It was not top down RNC creation. I give them credit for trying because many with their beliefs have just opted out of the right/ left game and said F-it. To assert that this was some grand GOP plan is baseless. Are they lock step GOP voters? Nope. Did the RNC benefit from the the TP because of the ACA? you bet. That said, I know several who would not vote for Romney and voted for Gary Johnson. They believed Romney was more of the same. Interestingly enough Potus got 8-9 million less votes in 2012 than in 2008 and he still won. Romney got 1 million+ less votes than McCain. When the news came out that the IRS might be targeting the TP organizations the only group happier than the DNC was the RNC.
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    I certainly didn't claim it was all top down. There are lots of elements involved, including big tobacco.
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    Using left logic above...

    Byrd = DEM, Byrd= KKK, Therefore all DEM = KKK.

    Unfortunately that is the horse chit logic the masses will be fed in 2016. It is easier to distract them with nonsense, than to point out that almost no one in DC is there to solve problems.
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    You are actually going to confront him with law and fact? Good luck.
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    Tea Party = Santelli rant. All others are hangers on trying to rebrand themselves. Public outrage at a mentality of the government existing to void out the consequences of people's economic decisions, individuals and businesses. That is what it all flows from, and why government healthcare is such a dragon for it to slay, because it marries the two worst impulses of government -- taking away personal consequences and taking away economic consequences. Autonomy, freedom, freedom, autonomy, neither exists without the other.

    T3 sure called it, the RNC probably hates the Tea Party more than the DNC. The Democrats see their actual adversary at the ideological grassroots of the country, but the Republicans see their fraud and failure and cowardice held up in a mirror in front of them. Of course the Republicans hate what they see more.
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    one of the things about this thread I find the most amusing is libs thinking they know what would be best for the pub party
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    Well, Droning American citizens is criminal, and it would have landed Bush in an impeachment trial... so carry on with your feigned indignation of the Tea Party. The UN and Pravda-west would have crucified Bush for this illegal act of murder that Obama committed.
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    Continual absurdity from the Tea Party:

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    I think I often know what is (better) for the Dems and I've been a registered Republican for almost 40 years. In all of that time I have cast two votes for Dems running for President. Sometimes being on the outside looking in is the best place to make a assessment of what is going wrong. Since I am fairly self-alienated from the Republican party over the last few years I basically don't have a party.
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    These people have always been around with the same lines. The Duponts tried to bring down FDR and social security with an organization they called The American Liberty League in 1938. The John Birch Society attacked JFK financed by Fred Koch of Koch industries, one of the cofounders, and now his boys Charles and David are funding the Tea Party. The rich guys have changed but the style, message, and methods are still the same. The Tea Party will fade and in another 40 years some other rich guys will be creating another group to do the very same thing. Every generation has their useful idiots, and this generation has the Tea Party.
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    I think it's the GOP RINO's that will fade away...
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    I don't. Mainly because, in spite of the rhetoric, the GOP has not been fiscally conservative for a long time. At this time the GOP doesn't really have an identity other than turmoil.
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    that is why I am registered as an indy

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