Florida Stand Your Ground...

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  1. ArtVandelay
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    I said that I would come back after the verdict, so here I am. I was wrong about the trial. I thought that he deserved to be convicted of manslaughter and was surprised that he wasn't. Even though he was acquitted, I still don't think that Zimmerman was innocent and I feel that he deserves to be punished. I think that people like him are a danger to society and I hope that he doesn't harm anyone else. Race is obviously an issue. I think the NAACP and Jackson/Sharpton aren't helping the cause by their words and actions. I don't know if Trayvon was a good kid or not. He probably had some responsibility for his death, but it was senseless and I don't believe he deserved to die.

    I wanted to share an article I read about the Florida Stand Your Ground law and how I believe that it needs to be reformed. A lot of you in here feel that it is a great law. I am all for people being able to defend themselves, but it seems that many take advantage of the law.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/public...s-some-shocking-outcomes-depending-on/1233133

    "As "stand your ground" claims have increased, so too has the number of Floridians with guns. Concealed weapons permits now stand at 1.1 million, three times as many as in 2005 when the law was passed."

    Aside from feeling that the laws need to be changed, I also feel as though the legal system needs to be changed.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

    So basically, this woman shot a warning shot (no one injured) because she was trying to defend (allegedly) against her abusive husband and she gets 20 years in prison. But Zimmerman kills a person to defend (allegedly) his life and he walks free. Sounds like the system works right?
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    Zimmerman being acquitted and being innocent are 2 very different things.

    He may very well have been exercising self defense but it certainly seemed like he was the sole reason he needed to defend himself in the first place.

    Had he done what the 911 operator suggested and just let the kid keep walking, the kid would be alive today and the world would not know not care who George Zimmerman is. We'd all likely be better off having been spared this incessant media circus.

    But Zimmerman is in part vigilante and couldn't do that
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    I hope his conscience does not leave him alone for a moment. He made a colossal mistake and he's very lucky that it did not result in his own death or his incarceration.
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    this graphic is unbelievable

    SYG laws have been pushed on half of the country by the group ALEC working in conjunction with the NRA

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    oh boo effin hoo 108

    artie and north he was found INNOCENT

    the only one who knows the whole story is GZ- this case should have never come to trial
    and the evidence was not there to convict-if prezBO and the media had not pushed it based solely on RACE-it never would have come to trial
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    Solid response Bill...and typical
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    Complaining about the majority rule against a duty to retreat is sort of like arriving late to complaining about Styrofoam containers at McDonald's.
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    obviously 108-I do not really care what you think
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    Seriously? I'd have been blown away if this innocent man served a day of time.
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    Aside from the non-emergency calls, I don't think I have heard Zimmerman utter three words...

    How can so many claim his is a "dirtbag" or "low life" without knowing one thing about him?

    Funny. When people determine the character of a person based solely on the color of their skin, many of these very same people will be the first to call that person a "racist." Isn't that EXACTLY what you are doing here? If so, how do you justify your own blatant hypocrisy?
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    Laws pushed on behalf of wealthy special interest groups? Say it aint so! Except this time they got it right.

    Fear not 108, if you don't assault a person carrying to protect themselves, you won't have any worries.
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    If only it came down to just that...guessing you didn't bother to even read the article

    And don't worry about me, I don't have a heightened fear of death that requires me to carry
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    He thought he saw a gun in the other car full of black kids after they exchanged words about the loud music the kids were playing.
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    This!
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    Zimmerman's defense had zero to do with SYG. It was base on the basic right of being able to defend yourself.
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    I read the complete article. BUT, I didn't read the part where he was tried and found not guilty. LINK?

    That doesn't even make any sense in regard to the advice I rendered. But, ok.
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    "George Zimmerman, who has claimed a "Stand Your Ground" defense in his fatal shooting of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin."

    Did I miss something?

    Was SYG brought up one time as a defense for Zimmerman?

    This lady may have been wrongfully convicted. I have only seen this article and a friend reference she may not have been firing a warning shot but just missed her target as a response to it being posted on fb (again I am not speaking for the circumstances of her case/situation as I am too ignorant at this point).

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