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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by Bazza, Sep 23, 2013.
I was thinking the same thing...crazy
This isn't true.
I guess that without those 2 late long completions to UT we'd be no 1 in pass defense and total defense as well.
Under Muschamp I expect to be in top 5 every year. I love it and do not get too worked up about offense, where I see progress being made. I just want to not turn it over, be efficient in red zone, and have decent special teams.
When we get a couple of dangerous players on O we will win championships. Murphy, Robinson, Patton, Dunbar and Taylor have potential. Although at this point I suspect Patton is the only one who might breakout this year. Reminds me a lot of Caldwell / McGriff / Q. Green.
As much as everyone wants to blast you, I have to say I agree with you, real test begins against LSU, even Mizzou is a real test this year as well.
Toledo and Miami returned almost everyone from highly rated offenses last year. We're good.
Missouri has played one good game offensively. They put up less yardage against Toledo than we did.
I just can't sit here and say Toledo and Miami are that good.
If you insist we're that good, then those blown coverages by our secondary this past week against Tennessee and before against Miami, would be devastating against teams like LSU, Georgia, South Carolina.
Also our D Line better not get slow against the top tier teams like it did against Tennessee, or we could be in for a very long season once we get to playing the upper echelon teams.
If we keep these stats after the LSU game then ill be all in and believe we have the most dominant defense. Yes I still think we have a dominant defense, just do not know exactly how dominant it is.
You don't have to. But the stats show it to be very likely.
We had one blown coverage against Miami. Against UT it was pretty simply explained as we were down two (or three?) in the secondary.
Our d-line did not get slow, I'm not sure what game you were watching. And even if it did (again, it didn't), that was by far the most mature and experienced o-line we face in 2013.
We're #2 right now and I expect we'll be somewhere in the #1-#5 range by season's end. This might be the best UF defense ever, certainly up there with 06 and 08.
In the first 2 quarters of the game our front 7 was making the Tennessee offensive line look like a pop Warner team, they were simply blowing them up off the line.
I re watched the game Sunday, and I have to say come to the 3rd quarter, the Florida front 7 was not getting any penetration at all, in fact Worley had all day to sit there and throw. Good thing he sucks so he did not do much, but against Mettenberger, Murray, and Shaw you can not let that happen.
And if this teams defense does resemble 06' and 08' (which I think it has the potential to), then one can only pray that the offense gets their heads out of their butts, because this team would be so absolutely dominant if that was the case no one could stop us, or score on us.
Yea but offense wins games, something needed to make it to the championship games....
It we win the championship...the details of "how" it is accomplished are moot.
Embrace it....we have a punishing defense. :happy:
Exactly. When was the last time LSU had a legitimately good offense? 2006, when they were ranked 11th? typically, LSU's offense has been ranked in the 80s.
Miami's offense looks to be strong this year. They were our first test and it appears that we passed it quite well.
Look at Alabama's 84th ranked offense. After the VT game, all they said was that Alabama's offense has MAJOR question marks, but then they go and drop 570 yards on Texas A&M.
With so few games played thus far, using 2013 stats are extremely misleading, as playing one great defensive team can skew your stats. LSU may be our next great offensive test, but I think our next test against a strong offense will be Georgia and FSU.
hope Roberson is available for Kentucky, but if he isn't 100% let him sit this week
^^^^ agreed, he's the best cover corner we got let him sit if he's not 100%.
Can't really speak to Toledo, but Miami has a very good offense and we all knew that coming into the season. Duke Johnson is an elite back and Morris, though way overrated, is still very good. Their receivers are better than ours.
There are blown coverages in every game. Every game. Often in every series. It happens and, oddly, enough, teams don't ordinarily take advantage of them because identifying a blown coverage in the face of a pass rush is not always the easiest thing to do for quarterbacks not named Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc.
What does "get slow" mean?
The defense likely won't get the same results against LSU, UGA, SC, and FSU that we had against the first three opponents, but you are straining to find the negative if you can't see how good this group already is, despite lacking tremendous experience across the board. We have speed, versatility, and depth at all three levels. We have the best corner group in the nation, possibly the best playmaking interior lineman in the nation, and Fowler and Powell are slowly developing into an elite pair of outside linebacker/rush ends. Riggs has really solidified the back end, Morrison is one of the headhunters in our league (am I allowed to say that now without getting a flag?), and Orr has been a huge surprise at the one technique.
The biggest concern for me--and it was coming into the season, as well--is the depth at end, which we desperately need to keep our base alignment in and fresh against the more traditional run teams. Cox is coming along, but still a newbie, and McCallister just isn't close right now. We need more from those guys in a big way or it will force us to play Fowler at end and Powell at Buck more than we want. Tackle depth and rotation has been better than expected with Orr, Jacobs, Easley, and Cummings, but end isn't there yet.
In what universe does a qb who has never played a game before come in relief duty in game 3 having taken few reps in practice and win an SEC divisional title because people think he did so wonderful (better than he actually did) against a putrid Tennessee team at home? Add that we cannot run the ball against two UT DT's who are freshman and UF has yet to find a RB or an OL that can't keep the D off the qb and you have such crazy things posted. People around here are smoking the pipe, drinking the Kool-Aid, doping up, delusional, or sky high from LSD. Folks are in for a real let down when Tyler Murphy plays normal.
While the D had flashes of brilliance and there are a few superstars on that unit, it has also allowed big plays, makes stupid penalties, and surprisingly gives the qb a lot of time to throw when rushing 5 or 6 if the blocking scheme by the O is correct (can't get around blocks in too many positions).
This Gator team will be extremely fortunate to not lose 5 games this year. We lost to Miami and will be underdogs against LSU, UGA, USC, and FSU. Hopefully we steal a couple of those and that our annual lose to someone we should not lose to flop has already occurred in Miami. Any thoughts of us winning a championship are crazy unless TM becomes Tyler Football by making a pact with the devil like Johnny Football apparently has. And even he and the devil haven't won a single team thing yet.
Manziel hasn't had the luxury of a elite defense...
And TM is not Manziel.
You're definitely a glass half empty kinda guy, Raid.
Not sure why you'd assume we lose to all four of those teams. Our defense is far better than any of their defenses. We'll have to see out Murph comes along, and whether any of the young guys develop as play makers... but right now, we're doubling up our opponents in yardage. We just need to protect the damned ball, and we'll be very strong against most anybody.
Agree, although I am concerned about LSU, because of the four listed, their defense is closest to ours in quality, and they appear to have an offense for a change. Georgia's defense is still strugglinig, USCe's defense is not yet on track (and their offense is never very good), and FSU is really an unknown.
LSU at Red Stick (presumably at night, naturally) seems to me to be the biggest obstacle.
Not really. Just read more accurately. I never assumed we would lose to all four. I said we will be underdogs and we would be fortunate to not lose to the teams we are underdogs to. My point is that we really have no clue about how our offense will perform in such games because we have yet to play as an underdog. In other words, we have not played against anyone remotely close to those teams. combine our woeful running game and a brand new qb who would still be 3rd string if Brissett did not transfer, and you have a recipe for losses with our schedule. I also said I hope we win some of those. So, please read better ok?