FL HB49 / SB1140 - Florida bans Bongs/Pipes July 1st

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    http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/1140

    starting July 1st smoking devices are now illegal in Florida. Anyone found in possession of a pipe two times (even if it has never been used) becomes a third degree felon. In Florida, this means you are permanently banned from voting.

    Specifically the bill bans:
    (a) Metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone, plastic, or ceramic pipes, with or without screens, permanent screens, hashish heads, or punctured metal bowls
    (b) Water pipes.
    (c) Carburetion tubes and devices.
    (d) Chamber pipes.
    (e) Carburetor pipes.
    (f) Electric pipes.
    (g) Air-driven pipes.
    (h) Chillums.
    (i) Bongs.
    (j) Ice pipes or chillers.

    From the final report:
    Establishes the following five drug paraphernalia crimes:
    1. use or possession of drug paraphernalia
    2. manufacture or delivery of drug paraphernalia
    3. delivery of drug paraphernalia to a minor
    4. transportation of drug paraphernalia
    5. advertisement of drug paraphernalia

    http://www.lpf.org/news-archive/2-strikes-youre-felon/

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    Use an apple. Then eat it ehen the munchies set in. At least thats what I have heard.
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    Time to start making bong kits and marketing them. I think if you sold them as pieces for tobacco products you could probably get around the law.
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    F'n retarded.
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    Most of the country moves towards legalization, we do the opposite.
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    Looks like the ban would include most hooka pipes. Am I reading this correctly?
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    I don't understand this stuff.... not the kind of legislation I would be pursuing.
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    What about that pipe in National Treasure?
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    Idiotic. Ass-backwards. It's a damn piece of glass.
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    This bill is meaningless:

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...fter-losing-its-teeth-20130426,0,6120247.post

    The way I see things like this, it's good to occupy the politicians' time doing meaningless activities than to allow them to cause any real damage.

    Go GATORS!
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    To add insult to injury they made if a 3rd degree felony for possessing such items in a car.

    Is it legal to have the severity of punishment for contraband of pot worse than the actual pot itself? The glass, wood ceramic or plastic used for it is a felony, yet the pot itself is misdemeanor? That can't be lawful, can it?
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    What about one of these -

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    Cool, so more uncomfortable winking and talk of "tobacco" water pipes at stores. Just don't say "bong" - you'll be kindly asked to leave the premises, you dirty hippy.
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    Unbelievable. This is one of a couple dozen reasons I am a strict libertarian vs. a Republican.
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    I'd love to know how much money is being spent on this meaningless legislation. Reason #383,210 I detest the govt.
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    Seems like most of our political leaders from the states to D.C. need to take a gander at a quaint little document called the constitution.
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    And which provision of the Constitution is it, exactly, that says the Government can not prohibit me from possessing a pipe?
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    Good thing Meyer's guys are gone
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    Good question. Perhaps better worded as them understanding the concepts of rights... rights which per the constitution should be returned to the people if not enumerated to the govt in the constitution.

    The govt has no enumerated power to criminalize the ownership of anything, and as such where there is no violation of rights involved involved in that ownership, the govt has no legitimate interest, or enumerated power.

    Ownership of an item that could only be attained by violating the rights of others (stolen property for instance) or violating public assets (perhaps a public monument of some sort), would qualify as items the govt has a legitimate interest and power in criminalizing the ownership of.

    Beyond that, the people have the inalienable right to pursuit of happiness, whether that pursuit involves their home, sports equipment, Playboy magazines or anything else you can name that doesn't involve violating the rights of others. Including pipes or bongs or hookas, or whatever.

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