Five Myths about Libertarians

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  1. asuragator

    asuragator Well-Known Member

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    I am not a libertarian, per se, though there is quite a bit in which I agree with them. Then again, most of my libertarian friends are nuts, so that it might be that too. :)

    5 Myths
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    This one I think is particularly easy for the left to believe about libertarians and conservatives:

    We seem to have a situation today, where not only are the methods of the opposing parties rightly questioned, but also the motivations. The opposing party is evil.

    Want lower taxes? You must hate poor people.
    Want higher taxes? Your goal must be to enslave humanity.

    I don't expect to see agreement, but I'd at least to see an end to the "The left/right is hardwired to be dishonest" BS posts that abound on nearly ever thread.
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    23 Libertarian Problems

    I relate strongly with a few. Not so much with others.

    Two I relate to

    20. You agree with Democrats on (most) social issues and Republicans on fiscal issues (the qualifier is mine)

    and


    2. When you feel like a conservative around Libertarians and a Libertarian around conservatives.

    One with which I disagree;

    7. When people say, “But what about the roads?!?!!” as though there has never been a private company that could build roads.

    I think road building is better done by public means.

    Most of the ones about fealty to Ayn Rand give me the creeps too.
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    Also, here is the Libertarian Purity Test

    To get a greater score than 100, one has to be ideology pure, from a libertarian standpoint.

    I scored 63.
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    asuragator Well-Known Member

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    It is easy, rade, perhaps too easy.

    Though, I can only say from my experience, many of the libertarians I know either fit this myth or have a poor grasp of the issues underlying race.

    So it might be less about the philosophical underpinning of libertarianism and more about actual people. Of course my anecdotal observations aren't scientific and I myself agree with many libertarian stances, but I do know more than a handful that would fit this description.
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    Libertarian= Socially Liberal, Fiscally Conservative (Realistic :) )
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    Exactly!

    I scored a 64 on the test.
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    No doubt, jdr. The same with many conservatives. However, many on the left don't even recognize that it is possible to want to simultaneously cut taxes and care about the poor. Ron Paul is an example here. He truly believes (as does the economic perspective he follows) that eliminating minimum wage will help unskilled workers. For sure many of your libertarians exist as well, so I'd just like people to recognize that these different camps exist before throwing a whole group into one demeaning motto, as we've seen on here recently.
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    I scored an 80.
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    I scored a 21. "You are a soft-core libertarian. With effort, you may harden and become pure." I sound like a big, sexy statist. :slapper:
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    Btw, if libertarians believe in all the stuff on that test, it's no wonder they can't get any traction in national politics.
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    You are a medium-core libertarian, probably self-consciously so. Your friends probably encourage you to quit talking about your views so much.

    Was my description based on my score. :)
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    I think 80 of my 95 points came from the first two sets.
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    37: Your libertarian credentials are obvious. Doubtlessly you will become more extreme as time goes on.

    Possibly. Voted libertarian last election but can't ever see myself going to the extremes i saw in the last two sets.
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    The last set was very extreme. I don't call that libertarianism, I call it anarchy, just about.
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    I think we need to keep in mind you could vote for a Libertarian candidate who would not necessarily score close to a 100 on the test either. This is a party that could put some pressure on the other two parties if they work it right. Might not get the full-fledged Libertarian tracks in their but it could be a start to lessening government's hold over us.
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    That was the part I started falling away from. I agree with what you called it.

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