FInebaum and Bianchi talk about "rumors" of Muschamp leaving UF for Texas....

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  1. Swampmaster
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    it depends on how muschamp does this year---if he has a big year, UT will want him and pay big money--whatever it takes
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    It does tickle me how so many gator fans think our coaches will never leave. Spurrier did, Meyer did, and so did a host of assistant coaches. Best to take off your orange and blue goggles. UF is a tough coaching gig--entitled, demanding fans, difficult schedule, biased SEC refs, lots of competition for instate recruits. I'm not saying Muschamp is leaving, but UF fans better get that their spoiled attitudes don't help matters.
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    "Texas can pay more" isn't exactly true. Sure, Texas can come up with a lot more money than we can for various reasons, but that doesn't mean they can outbid us for a coach. There will certainly be some sort of cap on how much he will be paid and both schools can easily come up with the money.

    The question is, will Foley match any Texas offer? If Texas is willing to pay more for assistants, which will attract more assistants coaches, will Foley match that?
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    Why in the world would Jeremy Foley want to take a lateral move at this point in his career?
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    if they can come up with a lot more money than uf, why can't they outbid uf?
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    It's not like uf doesn't have options if this did ever occur.
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    Lol
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    I once had one of them. They make GREAT pets!
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    The only real reason you cannot find differences b/w CWM and Kiffin is b/c CWM has been a head coach for only 2 full seasons.

    1 season was bad, one was very good, so you could see either positive or negative depending on whether you want to be a glass half guy or a glass half empty guy.

    But if you take more than a cursory look at the 2 track records, CWM is noticeably better.

    Here's why:

    1) LOSSES TO UNRANKED TEAMS.

    Teams under Kiffin have lost to 10 unranked teams in 4 seasons, including many bad home losses to bad teams, such as his 2009 loss to UCLA or his loss 2 weeks ago to Wash St.

    UF under Muschamp has only lost to 2 unranked teams, both on the road, and both to historically solid programs, UGA and UM.

    2) PLAY V TOP 25 TEAMS

    Kiffin's teams are 3-10 v the top 25, a 23% winning %

    UF under CWM is 4-7 v top 25, for a 36% winning %

    Moreover, 5 of UF's T25 losses were in CWM's 1st year, UF has gone 4-2 after year one, whereas USC has lost 5 of its last 6 v the top 25.

    So USC has done worse v top comp. the longer Kiffin stays, whereas UF has improved.

    3) ABILITY TO COACH HIS SPECIALTY

    Kiffin is a QB coach and Off. Co-ord.

    But now that Pete Carroll's recruit Matt Barkley is gone, USC is really struggling in the very area that the is supposed to be the HC's coach's specialty.

    Versus Wash St. USC threw for 54 yards, despite having 2 highly recruited QBs in the system for 3 years and 2 of the best WRs in college football.

    Under Muschamp, despite the turnover issues and other offensive issues, UF's defense under Muschamp has been stellar, even though the DC left last year and UF lost 5 defensive starters in the NFL draft.

    There is no doubt that Muschamp can coach his specialty, but is Kiffin even a good QB coach?
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    I hope he doesn't. but to answer your question, the same reason I did. And, I am glad I did.
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    Because there won't be a situation where Florida or Texas is paying Muchamp 10m+.

    Nick Saban only makes 6m right now. Texas can come up with more money than we can but overall, we can both come up with the same amount for a single coach if Foley is willing to pay.
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    Right, but it could very well be that UT's max is higher than UF's max (not maximum they're ABLE to pay, but maximum they're willing to pay).

    This all assumes it's a money thing, which it isn't.
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    That doesn't help me, because I have no idea why you took a lateral transfer. :huh:

    So, the question remains... :joecool:
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    Yeah, I was thinking: people don't dislike Kiffen, because he got a great job without "paying his dues" or whatever. They don't like him because he acts like a douche-bag.
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    Totally agree. I've never quite understood why so many on this board have a love affair with the Aggies, when UF has a lot more in common with UT. I lived briefly in Houston and if I had been raised in Texas, Austin would have been my destination. Historically, it is by far the best combo of academics and athletics in the state.
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    I hope Boom doesn't leave. But this is the very reason why I'm cautious about throwing all of my eggs in one basket with any coach - they can leave any school at anytime. Jobs like being head coach at the University of Texas open up once in a lifetime. And IF he were to consider taking it I wouldn't blame him.
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    Looks like they're going after Saban with $12 million/yr.
    network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/university_of_texas_ready_to_make_nick_saban_huge_offer/14569486
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    Who's this Nick Saban you speak of? And if he were to take it, will we still be invited to his thanksgiving dinners?
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    Oh brother. :facepalm:

    Anyways, if true....My guess is Mack Brown is starting the Nick rumors himself. He hopes it lands a huge recruit that saves his job...lol.

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    True, but by leaving, he did prove his value to them. At least to their defense.

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