Nobody has disputed any of this. For a team you find incredibly boring and worthless you seem to spend quite a bit of time posting about them. NFL starts and ends with the QB, it is priority and step number one in turning this thing around. I think CCH's point was there are a few good players on the defense and they're mainly in the secondary. Evans and Cyprien were good draft picks at safety and Will Blackmon has been solid. Unfortunately Gratz has been hampered by a high ankle sprain all season. He looked great in August though. The Dline is atrocious.