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Discussion in 'Awesome Recruiting' started by vader6063, Nov 18, 2013.
This never goes well
Recruiting rankings over the last 6 years:
4 out of the last 6. One of those being a transition year between coaches.
fsu's talent is a little older/more advanced than ours. the transition year hurt and the #2 ranking from 2010 is vastly overstated as the good players are in the nfl (or hurt awaiting the draft) and the rest transferred
What I don't understand is why transition years don't cause the Sabans, Mahlzans, Meyers or Les Miles' of the world to have losing seasons. I understand a drop off, ala Meyer in 2007, but not a losing season and the current offensive production on the field.
I think it depends on the nature of the transition.
We've done very well on defense both because of good coaching and because the roster was strong on that side of the ball. The converse is true on offense. The roster was in horrendous shape on that side of the ball, both due to how it was left and due to an incredible level of injuries/attrition this year. And there is little doubt the coaching should be better.
Even on defense, the injuries and attrition have taken a toll. We're a good defense now, but imagine us still healthy. We were absolutely dominant and still would be. Now imagine us healthy with Elam, Floyd and Jenkins still on the team. Our defense would be downright scary.
But so it goes. Tough year with all the injuries and attrition, on top of the roster holes from 2010 and 2011 classes.
I think we really had 2 transition years, not necessarily from a recruiting standpoint but there was a full year where the program was essentially rudderless ship where a lot of players picked up bad habbits/attitudes and then a transition class, then throw in all the injuries and I think it was a perfect storm.
Alabama did have a transition year. Saban started out 7-6 including a loss to fcs team @ home if I can remember. Defensively, they became dominant in year 2, but they were running the "3 yards & cloud of dust offense up til the 09 sec title game". Even afterwards, the offense didn't become explosive until the title game against lsu. They've won with a dominant running game/oline & defense. The running game opens up the explosive plays in their passing game
Agree, but we had a 7-6 year as well. Trust me, after last year, I believed we were headed in that direction as well. Great defense, adequate offense and great recruiting. But, it seems like we don't have a grasp of what we need to do after 3 seasons like those other programs that went through that transition period.
I agree. Probably due to the change in coordinaters. One thing I left out was bama's 07 class was the equivalent of our 06 class. Even tho both teams had established upperclassmen, those classes provided a little extra juice to the team (Tebow/percy =julio/mark ingram/cody). Muschamp hasn't landed that type of offensive talent yet. That may change with cook if he sticks.
If Muschamp gets fired, the class vader listed isn't a possibility, so...
Clearly vader's post presumes Champ doesn't get fired, but...
The opening sentence of vader's post holds out the possiblity the Champ does get fired, but...
If Muschamp gets fired, the class he listed isn't a possibility.
vader's post is illogical at best and openly hypocritical at worst. AZ called him out on it, as is both reasonable and appropriate. :yes:
Yup, let him drown in his own tears at this point. Babies whine, that's just how it goes
"But this being the only reason to keep Will" is the key phrase in my post. It's not my fault that you have issues with reading comprehension. If you want me to dumb down my posts in order for you to understand them from now on, just let me know.
It's not illogical. Reread what he wrote.
Anybody care to actually discuss the likelihood of landing the individual players or do just want to continue to attack the OP?
By the way, I think you need to add a second RB. The staff seems to be pressing for a complimentary larger back to Cook.
Just because I thought it would be fun to do, I used 247's new Class predictor and if we added all the people that you have in blue with no de-commits and no one else's class changes (yeah, like that will happen) we would have the #2 class in the country.