Film police... get arrested and your dog shot

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    My favorite football story of 2013 so far.
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    my mistake, could you please move to the appropriate place. thanks.
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    If one of you legal types could tell me, is this illegal in Florida? I'm fairly certain the police film me every time I get pulled over and I would think it would become public record, like a 911 call without my consent.
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    I've read several terrible things that have happened to dogs recently and if anyone did that to mine, cop or civilian, aaron hernandez's covering his tracks would make mine look brilliant.
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    It is ok for the public to film, this is sickening. The guy first off willingly walked up to the cops with his hands behind is back as showing no threat... The cops jerked him around, and bullied him.. What do they expect the dog to do? That's what dogs do, protect their owners,
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    I've reached out to local law enforcement to preemptively establish that they have no problem with police officers being recorded (I have never recorded them, but I like to know that they recognize my right to do so). Any agency that is not respectful about acknowledging your right to do so should be a cause for concern in this regard.

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    More out of control LEOs.

    Had no business arresting that guy. Not surprised they shot the dog once it got to that point, but no way it ever should have gotten to that point.
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    This is the dog owner's fault. He was yelling at the cops, things like "civil rights!, where are the black cops?, why is it all white cops here?", and plenty more. He was technically interfering with the cops doing their job. He also should have secured his dog better in the car so it would not have jumped out and been killed.
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    The police should have just ignored him. He wasn't hurting anybody. If he was interfering with their work, then they are not mentally competent to be police officers. I do agree he should have secured his dog better, but the police also could have unsecured him to manage his dog and then deal with him after that.

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    This is on the cops.
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    Yelling things is interfering with the cops' job? C'mon.
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    The DOJ has already ruled that it is legal to peacefully photograph or film the police in public. The police, in this case, will probably try to argue that he wasn't doing it peacefully.

    They also urged courts to be skeptical if someone who is filming them is charged for something else, like disturbing the peace or resisting arrest.

    If you ever decide to film the police, it would probably be wise not to give them any other reason to arrest you. At least no other reason that the courts might agree with.


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    I agree with securing his dog better once he decided he needed to put him in the car... but they had no business arresting him to begin with.

    The only thing interfering with them doing their job was them getting their feelings hurt and getting distracted. And them getting their feelings hurt is not a valid reason to arrest somebody.

    We don't live in a police state.

    At least I've heard a rumor to that effect... that rumor warrants increased incredulity the more situations like this one arise.
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    Does malpractice only seem to be a medical term? are there ever civil or criminal cases brought against other professions that use poor judgement? I certain that if I did my job this poorly I wouldn't last a day in my job, or any job I have had in the past for that matter.
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    The guy filming the cops was doing nothing wrong. The cops had no reason to approach or arrest the guy and they created an environment that caused the shooting of a dog. This story and the one of the 7 plain clothes cops taking down a college girl for buying bottled water show how out of control the police have become. It defies all common sense.
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    What is unclear to me is why the guy put his dog in the car. If the cops directed him to do so I doubt they would be keen on him putting his keys in the ignition to roll the windows up.
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    :no:

    I guessing you work in a library? what happens when these cops are assigned to keep pull security at a peaceful demonstration? Are they going to arrest anyone that shouts a statement they don't like.

    Being a cop takes a thick skin, and not everyone has the temperament. If you are type that feels inclined to say "what did you say, boy" to every statement that hurts your feelings then you should look for another line of work.
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    You must have been watching a different video then. The one I saw showed the guy a good 50 yards away (if not more) from the cops and, quite clearly, whatever investigation they were doing wasn't hindered in the slightest. The only other ways he'd be interfering with their job is if he was making threats to the officers or inciting people to riot--and neither apply.

    This is entirely on the cops, who failed in every sense to take the prudent, professional, and practical step of just ignoring the guy when he was that far away and not doing any harm to them outside of harming their sensitive little egos.

    Enforcing respect is not part of the job description for cops. Only thugs do that. Sadly, the line is getting increasingly blurred these days--and an innocent animal paid the price. Despicable.
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    Agreed.

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