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Discussion in 'Gator Country Health and Fitness' started by Dreamliner, Jan 9, 2013.
You might need an herb (indubitably) Rx.
I may need that. Based on CDC numbers, I'm about to check out. It's not only the underweight who are at risk, some studies indicate the lower half of normal are at risk. And one study showed that people of normal weight who exercise are especially at risk.
Oh, I could imagine eating "well enough" to be 265 again. With out a single problem.
I would hate myself too.
Can I be 265+.. yes. Will I, no. I enjoy what else I can do now more than the long term eating it will take to get there.
Can I be 180? Yes. Can I maintain 180? At this point in my life, I do not fell disciplined enough to do so. Maybe that will change. It's all in my head.
Speaking of "in my head"... Do I have some wires crossed as a result of being 265? ABSOLUTELY. I fully believe that I am screwed up when it comes to food, and not eating 4000 calories a day is a challenge. Some days are better than others.
I do not like equating "food addiction" to other more serious and deadly addictions... but I think food addiction is tangible. Furthermore, I think that once you give in to a temptation, you always maintain that connection, and it takes mental work to resist that temptation.
Thus... failing at a lifestyle change and putting weight back on is a MENTAL failure before anything else.
Well, I suppose binge-eating and so forth could be construed as a failure in that it is obviously something we don't need to do.
I'm with you that eating does not, by definition, rise to the level of a true addiction. Of course this is scant consolation to someone who feels like an addict in the throes of binge-eating.
The # is the problem. That's one of the things Dream's talked about over the years.
Fitness isn't about what the scale says. Its about being able to do the things you want to do.
IE Be fit enough to bike to the beach on saturdays without being miserable.
My goal is to be able to build shelter and shade all day at burning man. Then dance the night away. Then be able to do it all the next night. Read otherwise it might say, my goal is to have the stamina to burn 5k calories a day for a week straight.
I perceive that my Quality of Life will continue to suffer until which time I can accomplish a press-to-handstand, lower to full planche, do pop-up and then perform back-flip.
That's impressive, lol.
I think this is well said. There are many reasons to be thin/healthy and I have yet to meet an overweight person that wants to be overweight. The negative consequences of being overweight can have any name. I think quality of life works because it encompasses mobility, vanity, and mood. I would be happy to call it something else if there was a better word.
I think those CDC weight chart numbers are to out of date. I'm always heavier than they want me to be, but I'm nowhere near fat or unhealthy.
However, 6' and 145 lbs is dangerously thin.
Not sure about the out of date part...
BMI is really an awful tool/measure if you are not considering a lot of people.
In my opinion, comparing a single person's BMI to an index is nearly wrong. For one, if you are an active person who lifts weights, you are NOT AVERAGE... so what is the use of comparing you to AVERAGE people?
Well, it could well be. But what can I do about it ? I've already explained why I can't gain weight and that it's the reverse of the problem for the obese person.
BMI really is a silly metric, IMO. BUT, the obesity researchers want it both ways now. They've used BMI for a CENTURY now to track obesity. THEN, on learning that obesity really isn't killing us ... they begin to turn on the metric they've used for a CENTURY now to track obesity.
I always thought Body Mass Index was hard to accurately measure, or just guess work.
Find some medical MJ and get the munchies.
I'm moving to California. So, maybe the weed will be more accessible out there.
Seriously though, I'm no more motivated to gain weight than heavier people ought to be to lose weight. First, it's what I am. Second, my health markers (for what they're worth) are normal. Lastly, my mother is skinny like me and is 84. And my great-grandfather was skinny all his life and died at 86. So, whereas I may die tomorrow, just looking at family trends skinny isn't necessarily a death sentence.
Additionally, my wife is closer to the underweight category than I am, and at the age of 57 her blood pressure is about 90/60. When we rushed her to the hospital a few years ago, and she was in great pain due to a badly inflammed gall bladder, her blood pressure ROSE to about 115/75.
Fascinating. I'd like to know more details about this.....
This is really good info., thanks for the link and story. I do wonder how many more cures are out there for other supposedly non-curable diseases?
This a good TED Talk:
Can we eat to starve cancer?
No tenable link found between weight-loss and diabetes remission: