Family of Winston Accuser to hold Press Conference this Friday

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  1. The_Graygator

    The_Graygator Well-Known Member

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    Good for you. So should they arrest the people who said she acted as if she were drugged then? I guess it would be ok, since Meggs wouldn't charge them, right? :rolleyes:
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    The_Graygator Well-Known Member

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    And some here wonder why we Gators who live up here despise fsu so much... because of their win at all costs, throw morals and decency out the window fan base. I mean, look at how many of them are over here trolling as Gator fans defending these scumbags Winston and Casher who tricked and raped this poor girl.

    I know some nolies who actually think Winston was guilty and should have been charged, but those are few in number, and of course, they have daughters who go to college.

    Otherwise, most fsu fans only see that Sears Trophy and don't care how they get it.
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  3. 96Gatorcise

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    At least I have read the SAO and police reports. You seem to just be regurgitating what ever you are hearing...
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    And her friend, Marcus Jordan, who gave her three shots of tequila at Pot Belly's (she had more, from other sources, apparently), said she was not a big drinker at all, that she was "drunk" the last time he saw her, but she was not "that drunk girl."

    He also said it would have been totally out her character to leave a bar with anyone; she was not "that kind of girl."
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    There is no reason for the TPD to track down the security officer. Darby was not a suspect, he was a witness. His speaking to the security guard has no bearing on the case what so ever.

    You have presented some really good analysis but this particular angle with the guard is a stretch.

    Asking the complex to review any footage on the cameras should have been done by TPD. speaking to a guard who was brought up in a witness statement, not so much.
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  6. 96Gatorcise

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    Listening to the interviews of Monique and Marcus, both seem to more damaging to the accuser than helpful. When Monique talks about the text "meet me outside" and states the accuser asked her if she should go. Shows that XX left the club and went outside voluntarily. Also saying that she didn't seem drunk but happy.

    If she was drugged it would have already be in her system at this point. Everyone has said she looked alright. Meaning to me not showing any side effects of roofies.


    Also if you read through some of the tweets they recovered from the deleted account, there are tweets from XX taking about being drunk or hungover on several occasions. Which does not mesh with Marcus's description not a big drinker at all.
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  7. Lawdog88

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    Well, "meet me outside" doesn't necessarily mean, "and hey Babe, we are headed for the appartment to screw," either.

    The curious thing Monique says about the "meet me outside" message, is that it was deleted off of XX's phone, which was a surprise to Monique - because she had seen it - and because XX did not delete it.

    Very curious.
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    definitely curious but if XX is like every other person with a smart phone, they have a lock code on their phone. So either XX did delete it and doesn't remember or somehow someone in the apt got her to unlock her phone and delete it.
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    I use a basic phone (dumb phone, apparently, i.e., for talking only), so I have no clue what you are talking about.
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    well then I will try to explain this slowly.....just kidding...lol

    All new "smart phones" have the ability to be locked so no one can just open your phone and use it or go through your contacts or texts and delete them. You need to know the password or in some cases a pattern recognition code to open and use the phone. So either she deleted the text herself or someone got her to give them the code to use the phone.
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    Lawdog, no smartphone? !! :eek: Lawyer, how do you function? Get one, you will wonder why it took you so long:p
  12. Lawdog88

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    Thanks for speaking . . . slowly. Yes, I am a Neanderthal riding on a dinosaur, and my kids (40ish and totally gaga with smart phone worship and adoration) do make frequent fun of me and the wife for "talking" on cell phones. It's like so, passe'.

    But hey, Jerry Jones uses a flip phone, and so do I. And yes, we are about as equally set.
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    Hey, I appreciate the tip, girl.

    But . . . I don't do social media - at all, I know how to read maps and plan trips, I still use email (what's that ?) and even snail mail, and I am not going to be driven crazy by clients texting me and expecting me to instantaneously get back with them.

    Advocate and agent ? Yes. Slave ? No thank you.
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    Anybody know what time the sheet hits the fan on this presser?
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    Are you trying to stalk me?
    For what it's worth, I know more people who don't use a lock code than do.

    It's an assumption, one way or the other, to say she used or didn't use a lock code.

    Probably something else TPD should have looked into, but likely didn't.
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    I don't. Probably should.
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    Would have been interesting to hear their interview from... oh I don't know... when the event happened.

    The line that stuck out to me was when monique said something to the effect of "I really don't remember that well, I probably could have told you more 11 months ago."
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    I really don't think you could get too much more out of her that would help XX.
    She admits there were drinking
    She admits to a conversation about XX leaving the club voluntarily. And a text after say"...I'am sorry I let you leave"
    When she finally does respond to the texts of XX, Monique can't come over because according to the the texts "I want to come home but this guy is still in bed". Meaning Monique hooked up that night and went home with a guy. There is also a text "crossed out name is going to drop me off".

    So there could be reasonable speculation that they both went to Potbelly's to "hook up".

    http://media.graytvinc.com/documents/Investigative Report - Part I.pdf Page 55-56
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    It better not come up positive for drugs... because they didn't test the blood for drugs. They tested urine for drugs, and blood for alcohol.
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  20. iwannaperfectseason

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    The guard (if he isn't imaginary) would have seen the girl leaving with Winston on the scooter, too. He was a potential witness. Why not try to track him down? Whoever is employing him will have contact information. Is investigating crimes really that complicated?

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