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Discussion in 'Swamp Gas' started by Number16, Dec 11, 2013.
Were you reading it with your ketchup and mustard colored glasses on?
Say what? What motivation did the accuser have for putting together a false charge against a "4 star recruit that has not ever played". You are the one that should come up with a "conspiracy theory". I doubt you'll be able to even come close.
My scenario is much simpler. Reference Occam's razor. The victim was raped as she said and the inexplicable timeline is due to good ole boy shenanigans. I don't need to reference much other than the idiotic atmosphere at the clown press conference and the lack of awareness of how that would look to the nation.
So what do you think really happened? Where is that mysterious video of a sex act that would exonerate the accused? What is your explanation, oh impartial one?
The Winston apologists should all play the lottery as the statistics aren't on their side either.
"Myth: There are a lot of false rape reports.
Fact: The false report rate for rape is similar to other false felony reports. The FBI estimates that about 2% of reported rapes are false.
Myth: Most people report rape or sexual assault to the police.
Fact: The truth is that rape and sexual assault are two of the most underreported crimes in our society. Estimates show that between 50–90% of rapes go unreported. Factoring unreported rapes together with the odds of an arrest being made and the chances of getting a felony conviction, only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. In other words: 15 of 16 rapists walk free."
This victim meant business. Winston, the TPD, and the SAO gave her the business.
You ever notice how the nole apologists never respond directly to the numerous and very specific issues iwannaperfectseason (and others) bring up? They only obfuscate and change the subject. One might begin to think it's because they know there's no reasonable response to them but to conclude that the case was not credibly investigated and, hence, that a credible investigation would hold the significant likelihood that their golden boy would be begging to be allowed to go to New York while out on bail (that would probably be quite high, but his family would miraculously produce after a visit from some garnet and gold fairies).
So keep it up, nolie. The more you dodge the questions, the more we know you secretly agree with us.
Seems my orange and blue ones were all in use over here
A huge conspiracy for a kid that had not played a down is the " simpler" explanation? And please I'm not claiming to be impartial at all. I read it all and just can't fathom all those involved in a grand conspiracy.
Can you fathom that the investigators and deciders in the case are ALL FSU graduates - Det. Angulo, Meggs, and Cappelman (daughter of the Former FSU QB)?
BTW, who did pay Greg Dent's $15,000 bail?
It wasn't a conspiracy. It was just a bunch of independently biased noles in pursuit of the same goal.
Speaking of Dent, it's no wonder HE was arrested. He apparently confessed and manned up to his crime. Winston - not so much.
"Here's where it starts to get dicey for Dent, per Florida State law the statement he gave after being advised of his Miranda rights was redacted in the arrest report. There are two paragraphs of redactions though. Without knowing what he said, at first glance two paragraphs or redacted post-miranda statements doesn't look good. Especially when you consider on the page that lists reasons for the redacted information, box 119.107(2)(e) is checked. That means it was a redaction of "substance of a confession by a person arrested."
You're randomly down-rating posts that are facts which is intentional deception, which is a lie... By doing this, instead of facilitating a discussion, you're basically throwing a tantrum.
No clue for the Dent bail, sorry. I did know that Meggs and Cappelman were FSU grads. Were you aware it was Meggs that went out of his way ( not a usual charging procedure) to charge Peter Warrick with a felony not a misdemeanor and cost PW the Heisman that yr? Maybe add to your conspiracy that he wanted to amend his ways
Yes, and he later let Warrick plead down to a misdemeanor just in time for the UF game in the Swamp, where he did most of the damage to us that night. Sound familiar? The 2 games he sat out were against the usual ACC scrubs.
The victim should drop her aunt and hire the lady lawyer referenced below. She's a keeper and the link is a MUST-READ.
"FSU did absolutely nothing and allowed the male student to continue his life on campus as if nothing happened. Had the school complied with federal law, they would have been compelled to punish Winston because under a preponderance of the evidence standard, the victim wins by a long shot. In fact, under an objective view of the evidence, she wins beyond a reasonable – or even UNreasonable doubt. Here’s a list of reasons why:
1. The woman reported the matter immediately and had no motive to lie. She had no idea who Winston was and couldn’t even identify him when she first called police. When a human being reports a rape, or a robbery or ANY crime, and there’s no motive to lie, they are presumed credible.
2. When confronted, Winston clammed up. So this is not a he-said/she said, it’s a she-said/he took the Fifth. When a credible human being reports a rape and submits herself to questioning by law enforcement officials trained to uncover the truth, and the suspect refuses to be interviewed on the grounds that it might incriminate him, the victim wins, period."
And she goes on and on about the idiots "investigating" the victim suspect...
She even found more conflicting testimonies from Darby and Casher and mentions that the victim can STILL be hair tested for date rape drugs. Something that was never done. Please read.
Yes, a jury might find her story unbelievable. Or maybe not. Which is one of the many reasons why Winston should have been charged and tried. But instead Mr. FSU took it upon himself to make those kinds of decisions. What a travesty this whole thing was once Mr. FSU decided to look only for evidence that supported Winston and discredited the victim. Oh well, at least the important things are still on the board - Winston's Heisman and FSU's NC hopes.
Great article, Iwanna.
Thanks for sharing.
Hmmm.... It doesn't require a huge conspiracy. As a matter of fact, the unanswered questions you can't even begin to address are what you should think about fathoming. I don't think it's going away nolie. You can hope but it's not. No matter what happens you'll all have to live with that hanging over you. Its called karma, justice... Look those up and stop worrying about a huge conspiracy and focus on why you can't sleep at night...
Interesting.. someone claims to know what really happened.
First comment, it's really long.
+2...that article really sums it up
Even Cappleman questioned Casher's credibility.
"Cappleman acknowledged the problems with Casher's statements.
"I have concerns about their credibility," Cappleman said. "We didn't make our decision based on those affidavits alone. Any discrepancies in their testimony would have been exposed on cross-examination."
Looks like jammer should subscribe to whitesportsonline.....