Elbert Guillory: "Why I Am a Republican"

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    What a great eloquent dissertation on why all black Americans should abandon the democrat party. If... and hopefully when... this message permeates the hopelessness and slavery that is the democrat welfare state meant to keep the black man down and compliant is heard... maybe there will be a sea change. Of course the democrats cannot have this so Elbert must and will be destroyed. Starting in 5...4...3...2...1...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_YQ8560E1w
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    Oh jeez

    I'm not surprised you agree that because the Republican Party of the 1800's were the progressives of the time when it came to slavery, that it means African Americans should be Republicans.

    Over history, liberals and conservatives have switched parties.

    Or that this gentleman apparently now agrees with your sentiment that social programs are solely a means to control the electorate.

    :roll:
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    I often wonder why blacks thing the dem party does anything substantial for them- I also am amazed how they can so blindly support prezBO
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    This guy just realized that Lincoln was a Republican?
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    if the R party's platform favors the AA community, then they are doing a really really bad job marketing it

    all the racial comments and images from republican party members (local and national) since the election of Obama, has not helped one bit

    AA's tend to see the R party as not empathetic to the plight of poor people, the wealth inequality between the races, and the institutional racism that doesn't provide them the same opportunities

    from a policy standpoint, the republican party generally wants to reduce the size of government from the bottom up, overemphasizing the poor as a reason for our ills and protecting the wealthy

    blacks have a higher percentage of their population being in the lower quintiles of income levels for various reasons

    republicans and conservatives seem to deduce the wealth disparity to laziness , an over-dependency on welfare programs, or just simply being black

    liberals, progressives, and the D party tend to promote and protect programs that seek to reduce inequality and thus help the poor receive the same opportunities to achieve as others (whether these work can be debated)
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    Complete load of crap
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    state your case why the republican party platform that is actually practiced, favors AA's

    tell us why the perception AA's have of the Republican Party is false
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    Just look at any video clip from the last 5 narional pub conventions. If you find more than one black or Hispanic on the screen at any given time they probably work at the convention center. Sends a terrible message to any non-white non-wasp American. "Hey, it's a big tent but only white Christians are actually allowed inside" even if the message is untrue. Picture says a thousand words.
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    tell me, did the south (who are red states), favor Lincoln?
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    If you really want to make a good case for voting Republican, you shouldn't have to rely on 1860, nor use words like "slavery" and "plantation."
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    I'm just saying that your statement that republicans have deduced a reason for wealth disparity to simply "being black" is a complete bag of crap. republicans are not against government programs to help reduce economic inequalities. What they are against is promoting institutional racism within those programs.

    if we are going to get past race as an issue then we need to do what Morgan Freeman suggests.....STOP TALKING ABOUT IT

    the democrats simply can't stop talking about it because they use it as a source of their maintaining power.


    The fact is that polls show that within Asian Americans and Latino Americans communities don't see racism as factor in their lives or a barrier to their success. And the facts show that both groups have outpaced economic growth of african americans in this country.

    Another group that is quickly achieving success in this country over the past generation is Haitian americans. They too do not focus on racism. Black West Indies immigrants have also economically outpaced african americans.....WHY?

    BECAUSE

    The focus on race IS the problem and that focus IS part of the agenda of the democrat party.
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    Kind of ironic given this thread, don't you think?
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    So essentially, you think Democrats fool the stupid blacks to vote for them

    Yet another reason AA's are turned off
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    why does any party platform have to favor any group of people-it seems to me that some blacks seem to think they need to have some sort of preferential treatment offered to them to be successful
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    that notion is another reason that AA's don't like the R Party

    to republicans and conservatives, the only reason AA's vote for the D party is because of "free handouts"
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    Those are the two themes. African American vote Democratic because:
    1. They're too stupid to know that it's not doing them any good.
    2. They're lazy and Democrats give them stuff.

    And Republicans wonder why they're being rejected.
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    I don't think that they feel that they necessarily need preferential treatment. But rather there is power in preying upon "white guilt."


    so why not use it.....
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    Whether blacks should be (R)s or (D)s isn't the issue so much in my mind as that they SHOULD NOT be throwing in with one side OR the other as is the case now. As it is now, they and their votes are basically taken for granted by (D)s and not even really solicited by (R)s. IMO, that hurts blacks more than it hurts (R)s.

    Look, I'm not naive enough to pretend that the (R)s didn't pretty much make this bed themselves with the "Southern Strategy of the 70s and 80s. But that was over 30 years ago. It's time for things to change and time for AAs to demand more from both sides. As it is now, both sides actively attempt to lure Hispanics, Asians, etc. to their side while the AA vote is basically ignored (outside of get out the vote efforts by Ds).

    Sadly, I don't see it changing as the anointed AA leadership (NAACP, Rainbow Coalition, Jesse, Al, etc.) have decided financial/political reasons to stay married to one side. But those reasons, IMO, are selfish and not in the best interests of those they claim to serve.

    Lastly, it's sad that welfare has basically been positioned as a racial issue (especially so considering more whites are on welfare - by a large margin - than blacks), which seems to eliminate any semblance of real discussion of the issue.
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    explain then why blacks vote democrat at around a 95% rate.....because everything that you're seem to be saying (in your focus of problems with republicans) is that they have no other alternative?

    is that the case?


    What exactly will bring the inclusion of blacks to the republican party where the republican party can still maintain their positions on removing institutional forms of racism.

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