egbunu and stokes????

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  1. Matherly87

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    I think if the coaches were not sure we get Egbunu by February then Stokes would have been pushed harder to be ready. That does not look to be the case. With Egbunu and a healthy Hayes and Stone we are set. We can always run Gak in there for 5-8 minutes when games are not close to help. CWM has already used Hayes at the PF spot a few games this year if we need to experiment. Either way Egor is our best rebounder until Egbunu gets full go ready.
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    With the recent emergence of Hayes and Stone, and add in the return of the Eggman, I don't see Stokes playing this season.

    Next year...other teams will be saying:
    Stokes and Stone may break my bones, but Eggs no longer harms me.
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    And if he's at 3 bills running and jumping, how's that "new knee" gonna handle that as opposed to losing 50 pounds and then running on the new knee. I think we'll see Eggs at some point if he can do it because he is a senior. I think Stokes we won't at all. If KH and KS keeping playing the way they are there really is no upside to playing Stokes. Eggs however is thinking about his draft status(nothing wrong with that = motivation), and if he can improve the tape and help the team he'll play.

    "Wes Chandler was Percy Harvin before Percy Harvin was born."
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    I saw Stokes injury. It occurred on a baseline drive by him with no contact from anyone. His knee just buckled. At that time last year, he probably weighed 280.
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    I think that if he can't go pretty soon the staff will explore a medical redshirt
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    There's a time span for injury recuperation, then an injry evaluation period, and then there's an entire physical conditioning process they have to through to get ready for the physical demands of the season. They don't just heal up and then step right back out on the court and play. Right now, they've been going through conditioning training to prepare for playing again.
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    I agree with your explanation, and then also after physical conditioning there is a practice acclimation period before they would be allowed to compete in a game. Which is why I don't think a January return is viable.
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    Getting a healthy Eggman the last 1 and a half months of the season would be all I'm hoping for.

    I would think redshirting Stokes and/or Johnson is starting to make more sense at this point.
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    Plenty of fat guys were really good college players......some ended up being NBA lottery picks.

    Overweight doesn't mean he cant contribute at a high level.
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    He's 18/19 years old and a gifted athlete. I seriously doubt his knee injury can be attributed to his weight
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    I disagree. That extra weight means extra stress on his knee, which definitely increases the likelihood of injury.
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    he's 6'8 maybe around 320lbs. (due to inactivity) when he got hurt he was probably 270ish

    check our football roster and all the rosters in the NFL and college.....see how many guys are similar size.

    odds are that the knee injury had little or nothing to do with his weight. again he's 19 not 50


    Plus, when you see Stokes in person up close (which I have) he is a MASSIVE human being. Very large frame. So it's not like he is carrying weight that his body isn't already equipped to handle
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    There’s plenty more who went nowhere due to their weight. When you have fat rolls going down your waist looking like the pillbury doughboy, you need to either pick football or lose that weight if you are wanting to play 30 minutes per game. I can recall a few NBA players who were fat, but not in today’s game. I think he can give us a few good minutes but he’s not reaching near his potential at his current weight.
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    Not in the long run, but he is a True Freshman coming off an injury with no experience. I think it will take some time.
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    Fortunately he won't be playing basketball for us when he's over 30.....so joint pain resulting from too much weight won't be an issue for him contributing over the next 4 years.
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    Good thing he won't be playing in the NBA game while he's playing for UF.
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    Stokes tore his ACL on a straight line drive on the baseline to the basket with no contact from anyone, no slipping on the floor and no twisting of his knee in any direction. His knee simply buckled.
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    Ok and? Happens to thin athletes as well. Sometimes things go pop


    Look, I'm not saying that the kid shouldn't lose weight. That's not near my point. All I'm saying is that for people to say that he can't contribute and potentially be a very good college big man unless he loses weight is not necessarily a valid statement.
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    If your position is that he doesn't need to lose any weight, you clearly don't know what it's like to play basketball at the D1 level.
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    Whatever you say!