Edward Snowden Flees to Moscow

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    I have to beg to differ in the constitutionality of the program. Phone records have never been off limits and often times have been privy to 3rd parties.
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    Snowden needs to take a bullet. As much as I hate Obama, and I think you all know I have absolutely no use for the man, Our adversaries are now using Snowden to make Obama and the United States look like fools. Putin is loving it. Nothing good can come from his continued existence in the hands of the Soviets and the Chinese.

    In Putin's eyes, Obama is the kind of guy Putin used to beat up as a kid.
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    Nope, just the lives of nearly every Sailor in the Silent Service.
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    It is certainly fact that this has been premeditated by Snowden.
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    I'm not saying what Walker did wasn't heinous... just that if it is not threatening someone with real power to lose, it is much less likely to get a response along the lines of assassination.
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    For one, they are taking everything. Phone, email, chats, internet, etc.

    Aside from that, phone calls have never been subject to warrantless surveillance. The 4th amendment is being almost completely nullified... especially when you add in remote surveillance, and the capabilities that are being developed there.
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    The Guardian released a classified court order requiring Verizon to turn over records of all domestic phone calls to the National Security Agency. This was strictly for metedata, no audio
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    I'd like to see what's actually being collected as we know in the past, the govt has not restricted itself to what the courts approve, as evidenced by the warrantless surveillance engaged in prior to approval of the Patriot Act.

    But as the old spy joke goes, "they could show me, but then they'd have to kill me." :joecool:
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    Wonder what kind of hell, this will be for any of his family members. Many consider them the Ben Arnold family and government will now tape record every snore, sneeze and cough from now on.

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