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Discussion in 'Too Hot for Swamp Gas' started by Spurffelbow833, Jun 23, 2013.
Was it this?
Because guess what, that's already a violation of clearance. Anything else?
So he has a problem with a government which spies on it's own citizens but flees to Russia? That is either ignorant or hopelessy naive. He will never make a phone call to the United States that is unmonitored.
Not 100% correct, on your part (go figure, huh?).
No, it is correct. Spreading protected state information isn't suddenly legal because you tell it to a "high profile" lawyer.
Furthermore, he's going to demand Congress' attention (who already knows about this) and what? Ask them to stop? Where's his leverage.
You don't really, honestly see that as a viable plan, do you?
It makes for good fantasy, though.
So, you think it was better for him to go to China and release it to the foreign media?
If you say so, OBOB.
Not better. I believe it's the only viable option for someone in that position. And to its end, it worked - clearly not fantasy.
Your suggestion not only wouldn't work, it violates the same moral ethos you seem to hold high.
In your opinion, I am sure.
And it didn't work. His popularity is waneing by the moment.
It worked? His actions will change nothing but they reveal a fundamental inconsistency. If a person truly has a moral objection to government intrusion into the lives of it's people than only North Korea would be a worse destination than Moscow. Edward Snowden is an attention monger and his fleeing to Russia an act of cowardice.
What's the over/under on time till the coup if they don't turn him back over to his native gang?
This is sort of nonsensical. Apply some critical thinking here. This is what Snowden knew:
1. Americans were being spied on by the NSA
2. The media's email were being read by the NSA and others
Given this data, would you seriously lambaste someone for leaving the country and talking to outside media?
Why yes... I would...
BUT, not if it had been my intention to turn this intelligence over to a foreign entity in the first place. In which case, he did exactly as I would expect him to do.
The "intelligence" in this case is "Americans are spying on Americans." Let's be reasonable about what was "turned over."
You're essentially complaining about a whistleblower blowing a whistle.
Also he followed almost the same whistleblowing process as did William Binney (who graduated from high school, so you can accept the validity of his actions).
So, you know all the intelligence that Snowden has thus far turned over? Really??
Of course, had you a actually been paying attention to what I have been saying, was was not criticizing the act. I was being critical of the method, but to understand would take all the fun (and wind) out of your argument, huh?
I can only speak to what has been reported and won't speculate further (as you have).
I actually haven't said anything about the act, either so I'm not sure where you're going there. I'm simply saying there is no way to let the world know - safely - what has happened without moving out of the umbrella of the data gathering agencies. And when U.S. media's emails are being snooped on, the same applies to the media.
anyone else find it ironic that he has gone to both China and Russia given the info he released?