Ed Schultz blames Detroit's failure on GOP policies

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    Wrong, if Michigan or Michigan State were in the Detroit city limits, neither would have any University owned vehicles with hubcaps, both would be stripped of their building assets, both would have losing football and basketball teams and nobody would attend the games for fear of being mugged. Pittsburgh had leaders who dealt with the problems and Detroit had elected officials who were not leaders. Sounds like what our country has now...and the biggest fraud of all is BHO.
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    Which leaders were those exactly? Let me know which leaders and what specific programs they passed, beyond taking advantage of the presence of the Universities.

    Beyond that, Detroit would be a significantly different town with a major University. It would have big sections of the city gentrifying, much like other large cities with a significant University presence. You stick a major University there, and the whole town would have been different. That was the real failure of the city leaders in the late 1800s and Early 1900s
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    Interesting articles/excerpts--1:


    http://blog.heartland.org/2013/07/detriot-bankruptcy-missing-the-point/
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    Interesting articles/excerpts--2:

    Here's another that kind of backs' Md'05's point about education--though as I suggested, it clearly was not enough--the state's funds were critical, and the state's involvement is still necessary--but it does contrast with Detroit's situatoin:


    http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/4389016-74/detroit-bankruptcy-municipal#axzz2Zyd8X8Qb
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    Interesting articles/excerpts--3:



    http://triblive.com/news/2189926-74...pening-mayor-bankruptcy-doherty#axzz2Zyd8X8Qb
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    The democrats know that their constituency is not very well informed and they will believe almost anything they are told by their side. So that is why they say things that are 100% not true, because they know their base.
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    I will disagree with you here. Detroit DID do things to attempt to get out from under the massive debt they institutionalized. They deliberately disenfranchised the wealthier among them and DROVE them to the suburbs by instituting income taxes, raising property taxes, etc.

    I person who made $50,000/year, living in Detroit, would take home about $4,000-$7,000 less a year than one who lived in the suburbs.

    Detroit made it very hard for investors to "re-gentrify" any neighborhood because of the union and government kickbacks it required. (They mandated union workers handle the renovations and demanded excessive amounts of fees to process the permits, including permits not required anywhere else in the nation.

    Why would ANY person who could afford to leave that cesspool ever want to stay? (Full Disclosure: I lived in the Farmington Hills and/or Novi suburbs for 4 years.)

    Another way Detroit allowed its residents to be screwed over is the way they handled long distance calling. In almost any city in America, to call from one suburb to another is considered a LOCAL call. That is NOT the case in Detroit. If you call from one suburb to a neighboring suburb, it is local. If you call from one suburb to one that does not conjoin, it is a long distance call. This is twice a bad within the city, as to call from one SIDE of the city of Detroit to the other SIDE, all within the same city, is considered LONG DISTANCE.

    Now, that was the case when I lived there in 1998-2002. I worked for a phone company and had to program that into the system. That was well before the advent of using cell phones as the only means of phone contact. The cell phones did not have the same requirements as land lines, which is what I programmed. But, it is another nail that the city allowed to be shoved up their residents' rears.

    The city never made a concerted effort to root out crime. Many of you may have seen the movie "8 Mile" with Eminem. Well, the neighborhood, 8 Mile, was extremely well known for crime. It still is. When a person moves to the area, they are usually warned by friends or co-workers to NOT go downtown after dark, as there are shootings nightly. I was witness to 5 shooting in the 7 nights I went downtown in the 4 years I lived in that area.

    In other words, the Detroit city council did NOTHING to change the city and that is what drove the vast majority of middle- and upper-class from the city. It was not the overall loss of jobs that gutted the city of a tax bases, but the mismanagement of the city council that did so.
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    Coleman Young is the reason Detroit is what it is today. He basically tried to build a black separatist and socialist enclave. When the whites mass exited that city after the 1967 riots, it basically was the beginning of the end. All this talk about manufacturing jobs leaving Detroit is nonsense. Pittsburgh reinvented itself but Detroit couldn't?

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