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    You also have to look at it from the perspective of who's drafting him. If he gets drafted high, he's going to make more money at first but is almost certainly going to a bad organization. That's why they're picking high after all. If he's drafted in the 25-30 range, that's the creme de la creme and he's going to have good coaching and player development.
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    He could always do what Josh Harrelson did, and develop under Cal. Also, players don't need to be "NBA ready" when they leave. The league can develop them better than college can as long as they're good enough for a team to give them time. Most of the guys we're talking about are good enough for that.
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    Of course, if you are Chris Walker, the lure of money may be more than he can resist given how hard his Guardian has worked to help him and how short on resources she has been. I'm sure he wants to help provide payback as soon as he can, and, of course, even a 2nd round NBA pick is going to make a ton of money in their first year. Probably more than I have earned in a 65 year lifetime so far, and I've had a well-above median income for almost all of my working life.

    And yes, Dakari Johnson is a wonderful case in point about what is wrong with playing for Cali.
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    Not a surprise, but here this is.

    Chad Ford recently said he could see seven UK players entering the draft. That would surprise me and would be bad news for UK's season next year.

    Matt Jones tweeted that Randle and Young are "gone" and that the other 5 are weighing their options (my wording).
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    Well, this is just delaying the inevitable, but...

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    Interesting. Probably just a way for Randle to get to announce on his own time.

    I think there's a good chance that WCS, Young, and the Harrison's follow suit. Would be really surprising if Dakari and Poythress leave, but I'm sure it would be more likely if everyone else was already leaving as well.
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    Embiid is gone.
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    The lure of Money.

    A really, really horrifying aspect of life in the United States.

    Without money, you are both figuratively and literally "dead meat."
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    Stauskas is gone.
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    This might be the most loaded class I've ever seen.
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    This one example is getting tiresome.

    What actually happened was that Josh got older sitting on the bench for a long time and only got to play some when Kanter was ruled ineligible for being an actual pro. Did anyone know what his abilities were before his Senior year? Since he didn't play much before then nobody knows. Perhaps he had that level of "game" all along and Coach Cal was inept for not playing him. Seeing Lee play late this year I am thinking this is true. Lee can really play and was buried on the bench all year. He only got to shine when actually put into a game.

    Or maybe Coach Cal can develop a player in a couple of days. LOL.
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    Its a "tiresome" example because its one of the few players Cal has worked with that didn't have obvious NBA potential. No one had heard of Josh Harrelson and no one assumed he'd ever make an NBA roster.

    If your theory is correct, then maybe that's what happened with Prather this year?

    Its not correct though. Josh got worked with a lot in practice and got A LOT of practice against very good big men while in college. Cal saw something in Josh pretty quickly after he took the UK job. Many, if not most, UK fans were made Cal "cut" Matt Pilgrim in favor of Harrellson and it took two years for most fans to see why - made more obvious by Pilgrim's off the court issues (sexual assault or something serious I believe).

    I could have used other examples. WCS, Darius Miller, Poythress all improved after multiple years under Cal. Patterson was recently quoted as giving Cal credit for his development also - and that was after just one year (gasp!).

    Another thing people forget when they wrongly accuse Cal of not being able to "develop" players is what a good staff he's got for this also. His best two guys for this just left this year, but both have been instrumental in working with guards and bigmen. Kenny Payne has also been good with bigs.
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    Harrelson never played more than 10mpg for Kentucky before his breakout year and during that year he was more of a great hustler than someone who clearly developed skills. Prather was a top man off the bench last year and was essentially an energy guy. Prather put up 27+ 3 times this year and carried us on offense for 2/3 of the year with an arsenal we hadn't seen previously. WCS and Poythress have regressed statistically. The way WCS played last year against us at Rupp is on par with his performances this year. Darius Miller imo clearly improved over his four years at Kentucky.
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    I think part of the issue w/ the KY players is the incoming class.
    They have a really good PF and C coming in. WCS & Dakari, Poythress may be kind of being "forced" out, because these freshman will be getting into their playing time, reducing their stats. Kind of like their PG from last year.
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    No our point guard last year was a puss.......they are not being forced out..they better be ready for competition and if they shy away from it I'd rather they leave for all parties involved.

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    This is a rumor..........but I think WCS is coming back to Kentucky......I'm perplexed as something is going to have to give!

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    WCS coming back would be huge for Kentucky. When he plays hard and focused, he can dominate
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