Dunker Saunders & Leonard

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    Three of the big problems (besides TO's) we had last game were the safety position (Maye TD) the TE position and OL injuries




    Bryan Holt ‏@Bryan_Holt 7m
    Through three games, former #Florida TE A.C. Leonard leads Tennessee State in receiving with 11 catches for 97 yards.

    Bryan Holt ‏@Bryan_Holt 6m
    Also for Tennessee State: Pop Saunders has a 71-yard interception return this season.

    Bryan Holt ‏@Bryan_Holt 4m
    One more from the Tennessee State Gators: Jessamen Dunker is listed as the starter at left tackle. The team is 2-1.


    OTHER TE's info

    Bryan Holt ‏@Bryan_Holt 1m
    Those three tight ends are Gerald Christian (Louisville), A.C. Leonard (Tennessee State) and Michael McFarland (USF).

    Bryan Holt ‏@Bryan_Holt 2m
    Three tight ends have transferred under Will Muschamp. This season, they have combined for 23 catches, 251 yards and one touchdown.
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    AC Leonard would be starting had he not left.
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    11 catches for 97 yards in THREE games? Why is that a big deal? If that was one game, awesome, but he's averaging less than 4 catches and 33 yards per game. Whoop dee doo.
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    It is frustrating, but that happens during a coaching change. It doesn't help if their favorite old films are about Cheech and Chong.
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    Cannot help but feel a TE or two should have developed by now.
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    the two that should be playing right now left
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    All our TE's are converted from other positions and Westbrook was a stiff from day one. You could see it when he was at FNL.
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    I am really interested to see if the Tennessee state 3 get drafted because they had the talent to and probably would have if they could have kept their nose clean at UF
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    so what exactly is the issue with Kent Taylor and Colin Thompson? We're all upset there not getting looks....but for insiders what are their actual deficiencies?
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    Not an insider but I will answer this question then you will cry about the answer.

    The problem is they are young, it is that simple. When they are ready they will play.
    Thompson is a blocking TE and obviously they dont they he is better than Clay or Westbroke right now, this is his first year really practicing.

    Taylor still needs to add weight.
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    at tennessee state no less.
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    Did you miss the part that he leads the receivers on that team? Tells you they do not have a very prolific passing attack on the whole but he is the best of the bunch. People complain about not having a pass catching tight end. Well, there he is.
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    Not crying about it, but it's a joke. These two kids aren't 6 weeks out of HS. They are in year 2 of the system.

    Didn't Leonard and Christian both play as TF? Youth is bs. Maybe they just aren't that good. Hard to believe the top 2 rated TE's bust in the same yr. on the same team, though. And neither can sniff 2nd string as a So.

    Kent Taylor actually has a catch and a TD, no other TE has sniffed the endzone. Hell, even a first down.

    I know I know, they can't block a stick figure etc etc......
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    Youth is not really BS. But players do mature at different times. Ratings are about where someone will be in 3 to 5 years not where they will be in year 1. A lot of people think if it is some 4 star player he should be on the field right away and that is just not the case. I do think Leonard was a better prospect than both Taylor and Thompson out of high school. It could be the case that they are not very good but it also could be the case they just are not ready yet. I am willing to bet Thompson is going to be a much better football player 3 years from now.
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    I feel that Kent Taylor should.....

    be moved into the slot position to run short routes, seam routes and red zone routes.
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    The question is is he better than the WR's that can do that for us? I doubt he is else he would have already been moved.
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    I think Taylor's first field action will be RZ work. Everything else there's a player that can do it better or at least at equal value and ore versatility
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    Thompson missed his entire freshmen year with injury, so he doesn't have much experience at all, though he is already ahead of Taylor.

    The issue with Taylor is he can't run your entire package. He can't block at either move tight end or a line tight end. He runs and catches well, but isn't anywhere near where Reed was physically as a sophomore, let alone a junior. You aren't going to devise a special package for a backup sophomore tight end who can't block just to get him on the field. I suspect he will get his chances this year, but the tight end position is far too important for our various shifts and unbalanced alignments to throw a kid out there who can't block or line up at different spots.
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    I love this board. Over the summer we drill Muschamp for lack of discipline when it comes to players and not handing out enough punishment for violators, but come September we drill Muschamp for chasing away the players at positions of need.

    Bottom line, Pop, AC, and Dunker had their opportunity and they have nobody to blame but themselves. Muschamp did the right thing when he kicked them out. The program is better for it.
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    I am not drilling him for chasing away players of need just pointed out what impact them not being in the program has.

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