Due to Florida's SYG law we have yet another unnecessary killing

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    I'm all for protecting mall-shopping grandmothers, but I doubt that was Durrell Peaden's motivation for proposing it.
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    The law. like guns is not the culprit. If the security guard broke the law, he should be punished. The law did not pull the trigger, the accused did.
    Yesterday, Chicago had 29 gunshot victims, 6 died. Did the law kill them or did the ones who pulled the trigger.
    We always want to blame something else for bad judgement or any criminal activity. society made me do it, or in this case the law made him do it.
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    What do you think it was ? Sincerely, I ask.
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    So if if a 6' 2" 250lb man tells granny give me your car or I'm going to kill you, is that "objective evidence of a felony being attempted"?
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    I guess granny should just stand there and wait to see if a felony will be attempted. Some might argue that ridding the world of a 6'2" 250lb man who would say that to granny would be a good thing.
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    Okay, so if a 6' 2" 250lb man threatens to kill granny, it's "objective evidence of a felony being attempted". Of course, if granny kills said man with her Glock 20 (granny likes the stopping power of 10mm) then we'll just have to take her word that he threatened her and wasn't just angry because she opened her door into his car or something.
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    Please give an example of this happening. I hear anti syg people make similar claims all the time...claiming it is the wild wild west with no consequences...but I have yet to hear of an instance where that played out.
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    To appease the National Rifle Association and grandstand for his conservative electorate.
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    It seems like there's going to be some aspect of trust levied no matter what the legislation calls for. I think there are reasonable arguments either way. But I think it's silly to blame legislation for crime. It's not like the bad guys are studying up on law and then going out and using their knowledge to their advantage to go and kill people.

    Go GATORS!
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    It's my understanding she was under no duty to retreat if she reasonably believed that she faced imminent danger. The exact wording may vary depending on the jurisdiction.

    But wait . . . . your 6'2" 250lb. man was just threatening to kill granny. Now you're changing it to make him a sweet lovable guy? Is that you, Bernie di la Rionda?
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    Your potential carjacking thug in your example is using words only.

    To attempt, means more than using words.
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    We had an attempted robbery at a local ATM. Four kids, two got out and shot at a guy to get his money. The guy had just got off work.

    At the jail he worked at as an armed guard.

    So he was armed. He shot back. He didn't get robbed or killed, one of the bad guys got wounded and all were caught due to the cops hearing shots and seeing a car hauling ass away from the scene.

    He used stand your ground laws, what part of this bothers you.
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    The "four kids" part bothers me.
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    There's a perspective that says they gave up childhood when they took up robbery. But even aside... what do you think them being kids requires, that he just have been victimized and hope they didn't kill him? That whether they had or hadn't, the priority is them and the hope of rehabilitating them?
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    I would sure like for some of you "unarmed nuts" to put yourself or your loved ones at risk of harm or potential death and then see what you think. I for one want my wife to have the ability to protect herself, if that makes us gun nuts then so be it, we will send flowers to you unarmed nuts at the funeral of your loved ones
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    if someone attacks you, what should you do?
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    Stop, drop, and roll?

    Er, no. Close your eyes and think of England?

    That's not it, either.
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    The unarmed nuts want everyone to think lome them. They have to come up with hypathetical situations and what ifs because syg has actually worked quite well. As for me and my family...well call us what you will but we will be armed. We will defend our selves. If we are gun nuts...that's far far better tham being sheeple or prey.
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    A few years ago a UF student was beaten to death following the Fl/Ga game by 5 yoing
    punks. No guns were involved. If that young man had a gun at what point during the course of his demise would he have had the blessing of some on here to open fire & possibly be alive today?
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    It was created and passed by (R)s and is approved by the NRA. Period. That's how his mind works.

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