Duck Dynasty On Welfare? Taxpayer Handouts Of $70K Per Week

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    this is the key paragraph for me

    The handouts are part of Louisiana’s incentive program for film and TV productions, a program which began in earnest in 2002 and which has earned the state the nickname “Hollywood South.” Dozens of film and TV projects shoot there, to collect the generous taxpayer-backed subsidies, which cover about 30 percent of a film or TV show’s production costs in Louisiana.
    Read more at http://www.inquisitr.com/1306559/du...-week-estimated-for-cast/#xBvcddpDAqmsJb4W.99

    that is no different than any state trying to bring in industries that may bring in some big bucks to the local economy


    with six it really all comes down to the homosexual remarks

    here is what the gay producer says about the Robertson family

    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/mic...=Facebook&utm_campaign=N-DuckDynasty-Producer
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    What it all comes down to is how conservatives aren't really against govt. handouts, as long as they approve of what the handouts are for. This is yet another example showing as much.
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    At the risk of stating the obvious for the intentionally clueless, conservatives are against giving anyone something for nothing, and especially against it when it is used by any party to buy votes.
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    As opposed to what it seems you are implying--that libs are all for any govt handouts, regardless of what they are for?
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    Partially true, and a deeper study would probably need to be done.
    But members of the crew have lived there for years, and essentially they are paying zero state taxes. Nothing for schools, roads etc. And it probably comes out to less than that even, they are probably a net negative in the end if it's truly 70k a week.
    Is that offset by additional jobs they create? Don't know, but it would seem that if no other state gives the levels of incentives that Louisiana is giving, they are probably out of whack with the return.
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    Do you really believe that liberals would be for a govt. handout to the Westboro Baptist Church? I don't.
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    Some people see feeding the poor as buying votes, others see it as feeding the poor.
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    Especially since political participation is the highest among people with higher incomes. Buying votes by feeding the poor is a pretty bad investment, probably a better idea to offer tax cuts if you want to buy votes.
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    Never said I did believe that--however in the same light, your post stated the blatant obvious....conservatives are indeed for govt intervention WHEN APPROPRIATE. Yet you seem to state what anyone with a functioning brain already knows--yes, even conservatives--there is indeed a time and place for when govt should help out. And far too many times when they shouldn't, yet do.

    Therein lies likely the biggest problem in this country which libs seem to blindly deny---overt spending needlessly. Particularly when the money simply isn't there.
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    the benefit is going to the hollywood uber elite, not the cast members. what you really mean is that you don't agree with the "type" people getting a subsidy (though you are wrong about that as well), not the subsidy itself, which is where you are wrong.
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    "Overt spending needlessly"

    You mean like throwing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of govt. handouts at a show that is hugely profitable and successful? Or in your world is that neither overt nor needless?
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    I don't care who gets the money, what I'm pointing out is the hypocrisy of people who rail against govt. handouts not having issues with this particular govt. handout. What I'm pointing out is that people who complain about govt. spending don't complain about the govt. spending that benefits them. Whether it's the Louisiana Tea Partier sitting at home watching Duck Dynasty, the ex govt. worker collecting their pension while watching Fox News, or the farmer whining about welfare why receiving farm subsidies. None of them are really against government handouts, they're just against government handouts that don't benefit them in some way.
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    I'm not against cities, states offering incentives to businesses for job creation. I am against my tax dollars being used to bribe unions for votes and money to perpetuate the continual cycle that brings. It would seem that LA feels it to be worth it. Just like Seattle city council feels like $15 hour is worth it. I suppose the voters will ultimately decide both issues. Why are your panties in a wad about what LA is doing?
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    Digging into the article and then going to the LA Dept of Revenue site to look at this CREDIT, it is a hell of a deal and further proof that people do not understand what they read.

    In short, the credit works like this. There are 2 parts. One part is a 30% credit on local QUALIFIED spending. Assume for argument all spending is local.

    You take the local spending and multiple by 30% and that is the amount of credit LA will allow to offset your income tax liability in LA. IF you make no money, there is nothing to offset.

    SO, LA gets a $1 dump into its local economy and allows a 30% credit offset income tax. NO matter how you slice this, its a net win for LA. That $1 would never have been dumped into the economy and the credit is only against LA income tax.

    The other has to do with payroll and applies to the first $1 million per person. There is a 5% credit allowed per $1 of payroll paid on LA residents. This goes to the production company.

    They can use these credits to offset LA income tax. Keep in mind these are tax credits and in order for them to be worth anything, you have to have taxable income.

    These credits are NON REFUNDABLE and expire in 10 years, so if you don't take them, you lose them.

    The OP didn't do his/her homework and the author of the article posted in the OP is a complete 100% dumbass.
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    Please...let's not use common sense to explain something to someone who obviously is simply wanting to bitch for the sake of bitching. Obviously this...as you stated nicely above...is "investment". In the leftie mind, if it isn't being used for strictly political purposes then it is a waste. Note how he makes damn sure to single out FOX viewers, Tea Party members, etc in his eloquent defense. Horsehockey and we ALL see through it.

    This thread was based solely on bitching, complaining, false premise, and general lib mantra of deflection. All the while we have a govt at the Fed level lying through their fangs about losing emails--which their lack of a plausible defense is what created the need for this unworthy thread.
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    Feeding the poor a bbq or fried chicken lunch after you bus them to the poll and give them a handout telling them who and what to vote for or against. Yep. That is certainly charitable of those demos.
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    Especially gov handouts in such a poor state as LA where budget cuts have been brutal:

    http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/12/louisiana_cuts_health_care_med.html
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    Why yoy libs go and read gator cop's post about what NY and Gov Coumo are doing. It sounds similar and they are hard core liberal but eventually reality sets in unless one is totally stupid.
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