Driskel's sack fumbles (plural)

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  1. Gatuar
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    The best OL in the world gets beat he needs to be able to take a hit and keep the ball

    The sack fumbles cost us games because our games are so tight
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    so hearing could be his problem. :wink:
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    The problem is he has that baseball wind up and he has poor awareness of when the pocket is collapsing around him. Tebow got away with it because he at least could sense when he was out of time or when one of his o-lineman had whiffed on a block. Jeff doesn't seem to have that ability or he might just trust his line too damn much.
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    If you watch his high school highlight reels, one thing you will notice is that he immediately runs around as soon as he gets the ball. He had no pocket awareness because he didn't wait for a pocket to develop.

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    If the ball didn't drop down to his waist he'd hang on to it

    If he keeps it by his ear the hit from behind would force the ball back towards his guide hand and he could possess the ball

    Instead he gets hit while the ball is on upswing of his windup motion which causes the 22 man "jump ball"
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    Ha...the lookout block one of the funniest things I've seen

    Also good point on Tebow vs Driskel he seemed to know when the pocket had collappsed

    It's as if JD knows the walls are caving in but will go through his windup motion anyways
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    What? Have you ever played quarterback?

    Jeff was hit in the process of throwing the ball. If he keeps it by his ear that ball ain't gonna go very far.

    And if he were just holding it (and looking downfield like we want) a blindside hit knocks his head into the ball. Which is covered by a helmet. A hard helmet. The kind of hard that makes a ball bounce off it. :roll:

    Jeff got sacked many times last year without fumbling. He's fumbled once on a hit this year (the first fumble was a strip). And that was on a blindside hit while he was in the middle of throwing the ball. That, by the way, is the kind of hit that will make any quarterback in the world fumble. Tom Brady or Drew Brees fumble on that hit 70% of the time.

    Ergo, ipso facto the solution is to keep him from getting hit like that. :wave:
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    Can't put all the blame on Driskel some of it has to be put on the O-Line for not protecting him worth a dam.
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    If he has great pocket awareness he gets rid of the ball as soon as he gets pressure. A QB with great pocket awareness will rarely get sacked even if his o-line sucks.
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    LOL!
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    is this supposed to be some kind of joke. BOTH of his interceptions are when he was outside of the pocket. whenever jeff is out of the pocket i am holding my breath, it is scary.
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    Along with a recognition problem at QB.
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    You do know our coaches are working with Jeff to get him to pay less attention to the pass rush, right? So he can concentrate on his receivers downfield? Can't do both...and real life people don't have Spidey Sense.
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    Do you know what it means to move the pocket?
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    I don't think that pocket presence is really something that can be taught. That's one of the reasons why I think JD will remain a good QB and never become a great one... Just my opinion though...
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    i sure do and it won't work with jeff. the only time jeff is successful is when he is in the pocket; and hits his number 1 option after staring him down. moving the pocket is not going to help jeff; now if you wanted to use more of a zone read kind of offense than that would be understandable due to his running ability(and really i don't think he is football smart enough to handle that) but moving the pocket and have him out and moving has been a recipe for disaster.
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    Since when is Jeff good at pocket passing?
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    finish the rest of the sentence, but he is BEST in the pocket. best by his standard. but i don't think jeff is really that good at anything from qb perspective unfortunately. but most of his plays seem to come when he stays in the pocket and hits the #1 option for that play. but once #1 option is not open, panic sets in and disaster occurs(sacks, interceptions, fumbles)
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    Point well taken. However, to be honest, Jeff has not often had anything resembling a pocket to step up into.

    OTOH, I think doing that sucessfully has more to do with having a clock in your head than sensing an onrushing D lineman. OTs aren't taught to hold their blocks forever. The best QBs know how long they have before they have to step up (usually either a three or a four count - depending on the drop). I think that's something Jeff can learn. I think the game just hasn't slowed down for him yet.
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    Our OL coach teaches the look out block........That's when the OL turns around and yells LOOK OUT.

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