Dooley Picks Auburn/SC in SECCG (w/ Auburn winning)

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  1. CockyInSeattle

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    Since I last posted, I have gone back and watched two games from last year. The UCF game, where Dylan came in for an injured Shaw, and the Missouri game where an injured Shaw came in for an ineffective Dylan.

    In the UCF game, he didn't look very good in the beginning. In the second half SOS changed the strategy and went with a power running attack. That eventually opened up a little bit of a passing game. Thompson did make a few good throws, but nothing impressive. Most Gamecock fans came away from that game thinking the season was over. We almost lost to a team even the announcers were putting down. No one knew they would go undefeated and win a BCS bowl.

    The Missouri game was Shaw's magnum opus. Injured knee and flu symptoms, including throwing up prior to the game. It wasn't just his performance, he had an effect on everyone playing. WR's that dropped passes earlier, suddenly were making clutch catches. Even the defense seemed to step it up.

    I sort of wonder if players considered 'injury prone' are just players that play with a certain abandon, with no regard for their physical well being. I've always felt that way about Percy Harvin.

    Anyway, last year the biggest concern for Gamecock fans was the LB position, which is considered a strength this year. CB is probably this years biggest concern. Lorenzo Ward apparently went to Texas to spend time with Charlie and learn about the 3-4, since we actually have big depth at LB.

    But honestly, the success or failure of next season is all on the shoulders of Thompson. Only game where he was truly impressive was the 2012 Clemson game. He carved up the secondary with 300+ yards, but that was with little pressure.

    As good as everyone thinks the OL is this year, they're way better at run blocking than pass protection.

    Should be an interesting year, and I'm looking forward to seeing the UF offense under Roper.
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  2. Tebowism0823

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    Well I think you're smart enough to answer that yourself. I'll state it again, that game was nothing like the Miami game.
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    Look at us last year against USCe; at their house. Missouri will be much better than we were at that point. They still have good talent on both sides of the ball; especially at QB and DE.
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    For those saying Auburn was better but they just "shot themselves in the foot", are you aware that 2 of the 3 touchdowns they scored in the first half were because of FSU shooting themselves in the foot? Or does that not count?
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    Was kinda thinking the same thing. Auburn came out on fire and FSU took their best punches, stayed in the game and pulled it out. During the comeback Auburn's third quarter drives were as follows...

    5 plays, 17 yards, punt
    3 plays, 5 yards, punt
    4 plays, 13 yards, punt
    4 plays, 8 yards, INT

    This is where the game was won. Kept FSU's defense off the field and allowed the offense to get some confidence.

    They had a nice drive after Abram's TD that resulted in a FG. Before the Whitfield return most people thought that that was going to be the last drive of the game. 4 or so minutes left.

    As for the SEC next season, I am taking Alabama and South Carolina. Just can't see Alabama losing to Auburn two years in a row, particularly the way it happened last season. Auburn's schedule is probably a good bit tougher too. Alabama gets UF and Tennessee from the east, Auburn gets UGA and South Carolina. Alabama gets Auburn at home. Only thing I am kinda weary on Alabama about is Coker. Dude looks the part, can make all the throws but he just looked totally uncomfortable out there in games. I know it was with the second teamers, up by a million points and all but I just don't know. OTOH, all he has to really do is hand it off with those RBs Alabama has, assuming he is even the starter.
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    Not that arguing with you will make a difference, but I think you may be wishful thinking here. Their defense shut you down. Big difference then shooting yourself in the foot. Go back and look at the drives. I watched the game in a house full of trolls; they'll all tell you the same thing.

    Auburn took their foot off the throttle for some reason. Not saying your defense didn't start playing better, but we all saw a huge difference. Not to mention they shut you down for 3 quarters and then allow 21 in the fourth. They choked!
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  7. Wormwood56

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    You're smart enough to know that the transitive property doesn't work. Who knows? Maybe we played our A game and USCe played their D game, or that USCe's offense simply doesn't frighten Muschamp. Consider:

    Year----------USCe Yards----------USCe TDs---------USCe FG---------Other

    2013.......................377..................................1............................4.........................0
    2012.......................191...................................0...........................3.........................1 (safety)
    2011.......................299...................................2...........................1..........................0

    Average.................289....................................1...........................3.........................0

    They average 16 points per game (19, 11 and 17 points scored). If we had an offense...
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    Exactly! We play both the teams that beat Auburn ( fsu, lsu) and both teams they were lucky to beat (uga , bama) not to mention the team they played in the seccg mizzou, and the team picked to be there this year usc. Yep no sympathy from us. :)
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    Look at the drives:

    Qtr-------Team------Start---------End#-------Plays------Yards-------Result

    1st............Auburn.......Aub 25...........Aub 39............5..................14...............Punt
    1st............FSU............FSU 23...........Aub 18..........10..................59...............FG (FSU 3, Auburn 0)

    1st............Auburn.......Aub 22............FSU 40........10..................38................Punt
    1st............FSU.............FSU 2.............FSU 2.............0...................0................Punt

    1st............Auburn.......FSU 25............FSU 0.............6..................25...............TD (Auburn 7, FSU 3) short field
    1st............FSU.............FSU 25............FSU 41...........8..................16...............Punt

    2d............Auburn.........Aub 15............FSU 0.............3..................85..............TD Auburn 14, FSU 3) 50-yd TD pass
    2d............FSU...............FSU 21...........FSU 27...........5....................6..............Punt

    2d.............Auburn.........Aub 39...........FSU 15..........13..................46..............FGA No Good
    2d.............FSU...............FSU 20..........FSU 27............3....................7..............Fumble (Winston loses ball)

    2d.............Auburn..........FSU 27..........FSU 0..............6.................27...............TD (Auburn 21, FSU 3) short field
    2d.............FSU................FSU 34.........Aub 0.............12.................66...............TD (Auburn 21, FSU 10)

    2d............Auburn............Aub 29..........Aub 36.............4..................7................Punt
    2d............FSU..................FSU 36.........FSU 36.............0..................0................End of Half

    Drives resulting in points:

    Auburn: 25, 85, 27
    FSU: 59, 66

    FSU clearly gave Auburn an edge with 14 points coming off two drives starting inside the FSU 30.

    3d.............FSU..................FSU 25.........FSU 25..............4...............0.................Punt
    3d.............Auburn.............Aub 37.........FSU 46..............7..............17.................Punt

    3d.............FSU...................FSU 19........Aub 24.............12...............57................FG (Auburn 21, FSU 13)
    3d.............Auburn.............Aub 28.........Aub 33...............4................5.................Punt

    3d..............FSU...................FSU 19........FSU 15..............4...............-4.................Punt
    3d..............Auburn.............Aub 43.........FSU 44.............7..............13..................Punt

    3d..............FSU...................FSU 4...........FSU 32.............6...............28.................Punt
    4th.............Auburn.............Aub 26..........Aub 34.............4................8.................INT

    4th.............FSU...................FSU 44..........Aub 0..............7...............56.................TD (Auburn 21, FSU 20)
    4th.............Auburn.............Aub 25...........FSU 6.............13...............69................FG (Auburn 24, FSU 20)

    4th.............FSU...................FSU 0............Aub 0...............1..............100................TD (FSU 27, Auburn 24) (KO Ret)
    4th.............Auburn..............Aub 25..........FSU 0...............8................75................TD (Auburn 31-, FSU 27)

    4th.............FSU...................FSU 20...........Aub 0.............10...............80.................TD (FSU 34, Aub 31)
    4th.............Auburn..............Aub 17............Aub 36............2...............19..................End of game

    Drives resulting in points:

    Auburn: 69, 75
    FSU: 57, 56, 100, 80

    FSU's 100 yard KO return for a TD is cancelled out by Auburn's 50 yard TD pass. Both were big plays.

    Auburn scored 14 points starting inside the FSU 30. FSU scored 0 points starting in Auburn territory.

    Auburn didn't give away jack. If any team shot themselves in the foot, digging an early hole, it was FSU in the first half. FSU was the better team when they had to be, and TOOK it.

    FSU adjusted by allowing only 43 yards offense to Auburn during the first four drives of the second half. They opened it up in the 4th quarter when it became apparent that the game was going to finish as a shootout, and both sides played prevent D.

    Only an SEC honk would say that Auburn gave the game away.
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    21-10 at the half, and they took their foot off the gas? Was that like Spurrier taking the foot off the gas in the 4th quarter in 1994 against the Noles, leading 31-3? No. FSU adjusted.

    as for Auburn shutting FSU down:

    Total yards 1st through 3d quarter:

    Auburn: 285 yardds
    FSU: 235 yards

    Not exactly shuttiing them down. In the 4th quarter:

    Auburn: 162 yards
    FSU: 136 yards, plus a 100-yard KO return

    Auburn didn't choke. Their weak defense wore out, and were demoralized by that 100-yard runback.
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    As bad as that kick return was for Auburn, they still came back the following drive.

    A DB fell down on reFSU's long pass play on the last drive. That was the difference in the game.

    That and timing of who had the ball last. Auburn probably scored too quickly for their own good on their last drive.
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    Falling down is part of the game. Corey Bailey got turned around twice in losses to Tennessee and LSU in 2004. Our DB fell down against Georgia in 1980, resulting in "Run, Lindsay, Run."

    FSU was the better team and deserved their win. If Auburn won it, all would say "SEC, Baby! Eight in a row!"
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    Auburn wasn't able to move the ball in the 2nd half until Jernigan (FSU's best defensive lineman) was on the sideline.
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    FSU got the last score. When they needed it. They deserved the win from that perspective.

    But those two teams were pretty evenly matched. That was a 50/50 game at best for FSU.

    If the DB doesn't fall down, the story of the game would have been that Auburn dominated most of the game, FSU made a nice comeback, and then Auburn put them away.

    Hardly the story of a better FSU team.
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    A whole lot went Auburn's way last year. A whole lot went against Florida last year. Does anyone really care what Dooley thinks at this point?

    What did he say about Auburn, Mizzu, and Florida last year? Hey Pat, let's talk in Oct.
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    No offense to Auburn but the win versus Bama last year was a fluke. No one on this earth could have forseen thfield goal try being run back to win the game ...NO ONE! It was a great year for Auburn but luck was on their side!
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    I'm aware of our success. Even with Muschamps expertise being defense, we were missing a lot of players and still did well. Even though USCe will have a great oline, I don't believe their offense will be better, and you simply saying they'll have no problem with Missouri is incorrect in my mind.
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    Sorry, you're wrong and EVERYBODY would agree outside of tally. I watched the game and I know what I saw. Auburn choked! You're just trying to do your normal stomp on the ground the SEC sucks dance.
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    Why are you so unwilling to admit that the whole reason auburn was ahead at the half was their two touchdown drives that started at the FSU 25 yard line? FSU shot themselves in the foot too.
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    While you are trying to do your normal stomp on the ground everyone else sucks but the SEC dance?!? o_O

    FSU was the better team. Auburn had their shot and blew it. of course, I saw the game, and we see things through different perspectives. I serioulsy doubt you would acknowledge that FSU was better than the SEC's best team if they beat Auburn the way Nebraska beat us in 1995...

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