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Discussion in 'RayGator's Swamp Gas' started by philnotfil, Nov 4, 2013.
solid but not elite
Possibly last year's defense with the exception of the Louisville debacle.
so was last year d Elite or not?
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I wouldn't call it elite.
Our D is good, and they show flashes of greatness. You can't get steamrolled by Mizzou and Ga. (1st qtr) and be considered elite.
Powell and Jacobs played on Saturday. Besides Easley, who was injured?
Our D could have/should have made a stop at the end of the game to give us a chance. An elite D would not allow a nine minute drive by the opposition to close out the game.
Our 2008 championship D was elite. We played an Okalahoma team that had one of the best O's of all time, and we shut them down. The goal line stand was a thing of beauty.
you add the exception of the bowl game. The either are an elite defense or they are not.
Elite D's get exceptional play at every postition. All you need to consider is the LB play this year to answer the question. Or how many T.O.s has this D gotten in the last 3 games? Or how many Sacks? What happened to the pride of 3 and out the last 3 games?
They were elite, except for the bowl game. Is that so hard to understand? They were elite during the regular season, but something happened at the Sugar Bowl.
It doesnt look like an effort thing
Even with Easley, I don't think we had an elite defense. I would say they were very good, but you can't have an elite defense when you have such a hole at linebacker. None of our linebackers are particularly noteworthy. They're smallish and don't seem to be particularly fast. Football instincts seem to be lacking, also.
Antonio Morrison is particularly troubling. Not only did he get run over by a depleted Todd Gurley for a score, he also completely whiffed on the TE on the seam route. Taylor seems to play better in the middle, but he has breakdowns a lot, also.
You have to have some perspective on what "elite" means. Nobody is saying elite as far as the last 20 years go. Elite as far as this year. If you don't think we were elite, show me 5 defenses that are better and explain why.
Easley masked what few weaknesses we had on defense: undersized interior and undersized linebackers.
Give the best teams in the country our schedule, take away their best player and watch what happens.
DL: good but thin
LB: average and thin
CB: great, and good depth
S: average and thin
Overall its good but not great. A good offense can generally do what it wants against this defense.
Not really. The trend of our defense is give up plays early and hold strong, only to be let down by our offense. Mizzu was the only game where we gave up a lot of points in the second half and that was largely due to Ropo, Riggs and Jacobs being out and the offense being a 3 and out machine.
How many points did UGA score in the second half? How about Miami? They only scored in the 4th quarter because our offense turned the ball over AGAIN inside the 20. LSU scored 3 points in the second half. Arkansas scored in the first quarter and only a FG after that.
So basically all we have is Mizzu as a team that "did what they want" against us but that was largely due to fatigue. After their initial explosion of offense, we pretty much held them until we got towards the end of the 3rd quarter then we started to fall apart.
The D change began with the loss of Easley! Play an Leadership!
LB not stable are aggresive and confused leaving gaps open!
I feel like we've reached a point in college football, just like the NFL has, where offenses have evolved so far ahead of defenses and you have to defend so many different types of offenses each week that it's become extremely hard to have an elite/consistent defense.
Once again, Saban and Bama are the exception to the rule. And even they got lit up by Manziel.
Saban's D's are not the exception to the rule. They win the line of scrimmage and when someone gets hurt they have a good back-up. Give Manziel credit. Easley tied up two blockers allowing more options on D play calling. When he got hurt what happened? Our elite D became not so elite. Except for the MO game, the D has kept the Gators in 3 of the loses. Elite enough for the O to step up.
Wow, just wow.
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