Do we have an elite defense?

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  1. philnotfil
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    I had believed that the answer to this question is yes. I'm reconsidering that.

    8th in yards per game, and 10th in points per game. That's pretty solid.

    A comment on here caused me to stop and ponder if that was misleading because of the low number of snaps that our defense plays.

    We only have to defend 59 plays per game. 4th lowest in the country.

    We give up 4.92 yards per play, 20th in the country. We give up 0.289 points per play, 22nd in the country.

    For reference, here are Alabama and Oregon on those same stats.
    yards per game
    Alabama is 5th in the country
    Oregon is 27th

    points per game
    Alabama is 1st
    Oregon is 8th

    plays defended
    Alabama is 3rd
    Oregon is 96th

    yards per play
    Alabama is 15th
    Oregon is 7th

    points per play
    Alabama 1st
    Oregon 5th

    It looks like Alabama's defense is elite, and Oregon's defense is legitimately good, while ours is hiding behind a low number of plays to make the overall numbers look better than they really are. Our defense is good, just not as elite as our overall numbers may have suggested.

    Edit: This explains some of the disconnect I would feel watching our defense. During the week I would read things about how great the defense was, and see us near the top of every ranking that was using overall numbers, and then I would see our opponents move the ball at will during the games. I couldn't figure out why the stats looked so good, but the product on the field did not. Now I know.
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    We were elite when we had Easley probably the best D in the nation. Now that we dont have him we are just good. Not having Easley exposes are weakness which is the LB's.
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    One of the better defenses in the country. The best with Easely. Yes, hes that good.
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    Who is #31 on Florida's defense?
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    good defense, some of the time? yes

    elite? not even close
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    We make too many mistakes and commit too many dumb penalties to be considered anywhere near elite.
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    No this is definatly not an elite defense even with Easly we could not stop UM when they had too and that is what an elite defense does!
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    Elite defenses don't give up two quick touchdowns to a gimpy out of shape running back, then let the other team run the last 8 or 9 minutes off the clock to preserve a win.
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    We have a good defense, but great not so much. You don't get gashed the way we have of late and a great D doesn't allow a team to use 8 minute drive to ice the game. It seemed to me, uga took their foot off the gas a bit the second half, playing to not make mistakes and we gained some momentum.
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    When completely healthy we had the best D in the country
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    When fully healthy and motivated, yes. The best in the country. Were playing with nagging injuries and no heart since the 2nd half of the LSU game
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    I think the loss of Easley and the recent game losses have demoralized the defense somewhat. Georgia had 335 yds of offense at halftime.
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    We have elite players on defense. The unit as a whole, although effective, is more concerned with talking trash, starting fights, and making the SportsCenter Top 10 with a big hit. Overall the unit is not elite.
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    You joking? The Miami game? The one in which other than the first quarter and basically just one huge mistake (by a safety who then found himself bench) the d dominated that game? And kept finding themselves back on the field after turnovers.
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    We're also 38th against the run at 3.78 yards a carry -- worse that UGa. Before last week, we were 11th in the SEC in sacks.

    We have a solid, competent defense, but not a game changing one.
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    To me that is the problem. It seems that virtually every game the defense gives up an opening drive or two and then kicks it in. With the offense stumbling around, we are usually in a hole at the end of the first quarter.

    If you want to be elite you have to bring it from the opening whistle to the last whistle. The Georgia game was winnable with a 4th qtr stop, but it didnt happen. And yea the loss of Easley is huge and so was the injury to Jacobs.

    Good defense, not elite.
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    when the starting safety gives up an easy TD because of a "huge mistake" and another DB gives up an easy TD on a corner route, that is not an "elite" defense. You can't take away the bad plays and focus on the rest.
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    No. I'm sure that if you take away the stats against Toledo, Kentucky and UT we have been pretty bad.
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    Our focus on defense is crap to start most games. We consistently have guys trying to "make plays" while not doing their jobs... like missing backside contain, not holding gaps, etc. And missed tackles and coverages.

    Not sure why we start so poorly and don't remember it to this degree last year, but we need to start the game ready to play.

    Aside from that we're not elite without Easley. With Easley, when guys are doing their jobs, we were elite.

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