Dem Rep stumped by simple question re: abortion bill

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    LoL. I agree, but I understand someone that wants to say otherwise. I'd also understand if someone ware to make the case that life begins at birth. All these different arguments have merit.

    So settling on no late term abortions seems like the most reasonable solution to me. But that's just me :)
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    Or how everything is "we" until it's time to condemn "entitlement programs" and people with a lot of challenges in their upbringing that led to being poor decision makers. Then it's "us" vs. "them."

    I think "we" is a great word and should be used more often...but can we agree to leave the government force part out of it?

    We should work to reduce unwanted pregnancies, and we should do it without tasking the government to come up with penalties for those who are late to join the "we" party.

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    Agreed that people may place different value on life at different times/stages. This applies as well to end of life situations. Most people, not all, accept that there are times to "pull the plug." That is also ending a life. However, there are reasons/interests/emotions that have more value to us than the life in that state. I just find it very disingenuous when people avoid the fact that it is life that is being ended by abortion by coming up with all kinds of mental gymnastics.
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    There are alot of truly sad excuses for supporting murder on this thread. As I stated earlier, it is conception folks. Until one of you can prove to me and others that you came into this world in any other way then we all traveled the same path. The only difference is how big you are along the way. Sure is sad to see so many of you larger folks so wantonly and with poor excuses trying to justify killing people that are the same exact size that you were one day. But they are small now so it is OK.... right?????

    Bullying has become quite the hot topic in this country in recent years. Trying to justify murder because someone is so much smaller than you is the worst form of bullying.

    By the way, when mom and dad introduced the egg and the sperm and gave them this this cool pad called the womb no more invitations were needed. Too late to rescind the invitation at that point.
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    huh?
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    Just so.
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    Don't want a baby? Use protection or don't screw around. Personal responsibility.
    But no. Not in our great society. It is always soneone elses responsibility to take care of my mistakes. So I can screw as often and as many partners as I want...unprotected. And then file for some more welfare money.
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    Wouldn't abortions reduce welfare $? One time procedure vs long term support
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    At the end of the day the result is the same. Two beating hearts walked into that clinic, only one came out. Rationalize all you want, it doesn't change.
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    Don't know. I think a good, rational case can be made that life begins as conception though.
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    What about in the scientific sense?
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    Of course. Rounding up everyone currently on welfare and putting them in a gas chamber accomplishes the same thing.
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    Bit different no?
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    What about it? If we applied science to law closely, we'd really have to rethink our justice system.
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    I dont understand why we have to abort/kill children. I dont get it.

    If a women delivers a baby she did not want, what is preventing her from putting it up for adoption. There are long long lines of people who would adopt children.

    Why kill when adoption is so much more humane and loving?
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    Is the issue whether or not people should or should not have abortions or is the issue whether or not we want to call on our government to regulate this aspect of our lives? I think most if not all pro-choice individuals would acknowledge abortion as immoral if they were being honest with themselves (sometimes people get caught up in the whole Republican-Democrat-style team mentality thing). But not everyone agrees on how productive it would be to have the government manage pregnancies.

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    I'm pretty sure I don't wank out a fertilized egg...
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    It's very different. Pretty much everyone on welfare have already at least had a chance to contribute. Meanwhile thousands upon thousands of humans are slaughtered in this country who have never had a chance merely because they are too inconvenient for the bullies.
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    The govt has many laws to protect it's citizens, especially the most vulnerable & unable to protect themselves. It's hard to think of anything more productive than the securing the safety of the most vulnerable.
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    Are you talking about large corporations and banks? :)

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